ebinmaine 62,961 #126 Posted February 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Maybe so, but just how fast we wanting to go in this mode. I could see where it could go 1/3 slower on top end. That wouldn't be too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #127 Posted February 11, 2021 Hard to get much simpler than this for all home made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 6,358 #128 Posted February 11, 2021 Looks like those are studded. One could play with tire sizes, using a wider tire for the threads than for the bogeys - one, maybe two sizes wider might allow enough wraparound to guide the tread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #129 Posted February 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: Looks like those are studded. One could play with tire sizes, using a wider tire for the threads than for the bogeys - one, maybe two sizes wider might allow enough wraparound to guide the tread. Lots of options and other paths to fine tune it if needed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #130 Posted February 11, 2021 Ok, ok.... all this chit chat about tracks I'm getting an itchy welding finger 🤣🤣🤣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #131 Posted February 11, 2021 20 hours ago, 3148ISGREAT said: This has me at a crossroads as to what I want to do with my plow rig now. I was going to use fluid filled atv tires and as much weight as possible on the rear axle but after watching this video it almost looks like tracks might be more weight friendly, I'll just have to make sure I have a decent tread steer tire on the front or run a chain along the middle of the steer tire. Any idea what they used for the tracks? It looks like flat iron bent around the drive tire and a lug(?) welded to the flat for traction chain loops with flat iron bends and I think square stock cleats. I'd use rebar instead of the square stock... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,961 #132 Posted February 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Ok, ok.... all this chit chat about tracks I'm getting an itchy welding finger 🤣🤣🤣 Sooooowhut'theproblemizzz??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #133 Posted February 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Ok, ok.... all this chit chat about tracks I'm getting an itchy welding finger 🤣🤣🤣 Great! But screws first! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #134 Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, DennisThornton said: Great! But screws first! I waiting on parts and waiting for parts for the mower too. So........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #135 Posted February 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Sooooowhut'theproblemizzz??? I need a tractor lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #136 Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, Oldskool said: I need a tractor lol Some things one just has to address no matter what! Man does need tractor! How can we help? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #137 Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: Some things one just has to address no matter what! Man does need tractor! How can we help? I dont know. If I had pieces I would build from them. I dont want to do a total custom like the wife's then tracks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,961 #138 Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, Oldskool said: I dont know. If I had pieces I would build from them. I dont want to do a total custom like the wife's then tracks Hmmmmmmm....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,961 #139 Posted February 11, 2021 Not like I got a pile o parts waiting for a good home.... Boy I wish you lived closer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #140 Posted February 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Not like I got a pile o parts waiting for a good home.... Boy I wish you lived closer. I know you do. I wish YOU lived closer. lol Cant you just get a first full of stamps and send them in the mail? 🤣 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,961 #141 Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: I know you do. I wish YOU lived closer. lol Cant you just get a first full of stamps and send them in the mail? 🤣 Yeah probly! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #142 Posted February 12, 2021 @DennisThornton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #143 Posted February 12, 2021 I think the combined knowledge of this forum could design and build just about anything! I've spent a good deal of time searching the Web but also this site and while I'm not done searching this site, it's obvious that "tracks" has gathered some attention! "Dozer" got attention as well, and a build or two, which was my first interest, but a full dozer with all steel undercarriage is more than I would care tackle and it seems most others as well and I suspect that the "bang for the buck" traction lies elsewhere. That would be my elusive search. Something most could not only do but want to do after they see how easy and affordable it is. High bar! Can it be done? From what I've seen so far, perhaps! Perhaps it will be done here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #144 Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Oldskool said: @DennisThornton Decades before I joined this group I was looking everywhere for little dozers! Ahh the Mead Speed Cat! Certainly got my attention! All steel tracks and undercarriage! Struck went the other way for obvious reason but I think the lack of steel and weight took a toll on performance. As I look at alternatives I see that many (most?) forget that weight is part of the traction equation, at least sometime. I don't know where that line is but I suppose that where there is no bottom, swamp and deep snow, that floatation is king and riding on top! Otherwise, maybe weight, to get to the bottom and get some bite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #145 Posted February 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: Decades before I joined this group I was looking everywhere for little dozers! Ahh the Mead Speed Cat! Certainly got my attention! All steel tracks and undercarriage! Struck went the other way for obvious reason but I think the lack of steel and weight took a toll on performance. As I look at alternatives I see that many (most?) forget that weight is part of the traction equation, at least sometime. I don't know where that line is but I suppose that where there is no bottom, swamp and deep snow, that floatation is king and riding on top! Otherwise, maybe weight, to get to the bottom and get some bite. Yes I think ground condition makes a HUGE factor in design. Use is another.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #146 Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Oldskool said: Yes I think ground condition makes a HUGE factor in design. Use is another.. How to satisfy everyone! We wouldn't be here if we knew! But! If we could design options! ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #147 Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: How to satisfy everyone! We wouldn't be here if we knew! But! If we could design options! ??? A set for mud and a set for snow? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #148 Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: A set for mud and a set for snow? And maybe tracks and no tracks. I'm watching so much and the ideas are all over! Right now! Right now it seems that dual rear drive tires work pretty good if the rears are spring loaded. And some weight added! Then add tracks! Looks like a no mod to tractor set of rear bogies that could also take tracks is a pretty good option. Narrow tires. Fat tires! Narrow with chains! Fat with chains! Then tracks! The tracks with cleats! Bigger cleats! Weight! More weights! I really don't know! But I like options. If that doesn't work then try this. Then try to stay ahead of the curve! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,582 #149 Posted February 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: And maybe tracks and no tracks. I'm watching so much and the ideas are all over! Right now! Right now it seems that dual rear drive tires work pretty good if the rears are spring loaded. And some weight added! Then add tracks! Looks like a no mod to tractor set of rear bogies that could also take tracks is a pretty good option. Narrow tires. Fat tires! Narrow with chains! Fat with chains! Then tracks! The tracks with cleats! Bigger cleats! Weight! More weights! I really don't know! But I like options. If that doesn't work then try this. Then try to stay ahead of the curve! Or 4x4 articulating with canadian link chains? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,961 #150 Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Or 4x4 articulating with canadian link chains? Diamond pattern? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
