Family RJ-58

[Bruce 1960 56]

First let me say you guys have a great forum here, This RJ-58 has been in my family all its life. My grandfathers brother in-law bought it new, sold it to my grandfather after about 5yrs, then my Dad got it a few years later, then it was given to me about 30 yrs ago. Motor has been rebuilt once and transmission has had all new gears and bearing replaced. This little tractor has been worked all its life till about 10yrs ago, when I got a 4wheeler to plow snow with, at which time I set it in the back corner of my garage until a few days ago. I have the dozer blade for it, as well as the mower deck. I also collect antique gas engines, so my son in his younger years took it to shows to ride around and show it, but that was about 25 yrs ago. Over the years the fenders have been misplaced, they were taken off because the tire chains caught on them. Everything is original on tractor except the recoil, I think I still have the Fairbanks Morse one that was on it, and the lift cable to hitch has been replaced with a solid mount with a weld on ball for pulling a trailer. I as of yet can't read the serial number, I will be working on trying to see if I can read it. But its time for me to restore this thing, back to its former glory. So you guys will see me in here asking questions and posting pics of the progress. Thanks in advance. 

 

[wallfish 15,912]

Glad you found us.

What a nice example and if that paint is original, it's certainly worth more to keep it original.

[Bruce 1960 56]

No, its been repainted a couple times over its life, hench the paint on the serial tag, but I hope I can carefully clean it off, or hope that when they stamped it it maybe in metal below.

 

[Ed Kennell 35,626]

 to the  Bruce.          Nice RJ and family history to go with it.         Looks like several interesting projects in the background.

[Bruce 1960 56]

8 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

 to the  Bruce.          Nice RJ and family history to go with it.         Looks like several interesting projects in the background.

Not sure what " Project" you are referring to, but there are a few in the works!!! And now I just decided to take this one on too!! I always have things to work on in the garage, keeps me outa trouble!!!

[rjg854 10,711]

.  That sure is a nice piece of history you have there.

[SylvanLakeWH 24,093]

[953 nut 51,541]

What a great time capsule you have there! More than six decades in the same family and so many memories with you and your son.    

[Pullstart 59,570]

 to !

 

I wonder if a gentle wet sand job would bring back the original paint, with some satin clear or the like to seal the deal?

[dovetail53 18]

I see there's a Walk Away in the background. Do you have all the parts to it? Would be nice to see a few photos if it.

[71_Bronco 1,072]

Thats a sweet little tractor you got there, and a great family history to go with it. Looks like you have the factory belt guard and heat shield too.

 

Could post in the wanted section here for a pair of fenders, never know what people have kicking around in their spare parts pile.

[Bruce 1960 56]

21 hours ago, dovetail53 said:

I see there's a Walk Away in the background. Do you have all the parts to it? Would be nice to see a few photos if it.

You tell me, I'm not sure what this is. I bought it years ago to get the kohler engine off it for the recoil I'm now using on my wheel horse. When my neighbor started to restore a speedex he had I drug this in the garage, to clean up and try to find out what it is and maybe a year of manufacture. What can you tell me about it. Thanks in advance.

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Bruce 1960

[dovetail53 18]

well, obviously it's a Speedex. the wheel hubs are almost identical to the ones on my 1953 Pond Walk-Away. that's why I referenced a Walk-Away. My guess is that it is from around the early 1950s.

I'm attaching a few pictures of my 1951 WT Speedex. It however has a Briggs and Stratton 8R6 engine instead of the Kohler. there are a number of similarities between yours and mine, so I'd think it is definitely from that time period. also attached is a photo ot the 1953 Walk-away with the wheel hub that look very similar to yours.

[dovetail53 18]

I'm also guessing that your Speedex is equipped with it's own gear reduction box...... the Kohler probably doesn't have the gear reduction motor like my Briggs.

Edited January 7, 2021 by dovetail53

[Bruce 1960 56]

6 hours ago, dovetail53 said:

well, obviously it's a Speedex. the wheel hubs are almost identical to the ones on my 1953 Pond Walk-Away. that's why I referenced a Walk-Away. My guess is that it is from around the early 1950s.

I'm attaching a few pictures of my 1951 WT Speedex. It however has a Briggs and Stratton 8R6 engine instead of the Kohler. there are a number of similarities between yours and mine, so I'd think it is definitely from that time period. also attached is a photo ot the 1953 Walk-away with the wheel hub that look very similar to yours.

Thanks for the help!! I didn't ask here, thinking this forum was for wheelhorse only. I guess maybe I better think of getting that back up and working too. See just as in one of my earlier posts I said I always seem to have lots of projects!!! Thanks again!!!

[953 nut 51,541]

The similarity between Speedx and Pond walk behinds is not an accident, Elmer Pod and his brother Harold both worked for Shaw building two wheeled garden tractors prior to launching their own brands.

Wheel Horse started in Elmer Pond's garage in 1946. Mr. Pond started building two-wheel garden tractors using surplus parts. Within ten years, his business had become very successful and began to build a full line of lawn and garden tractors, in addition to riding lawn mowers.

This is a story that starts out way before the brand name "Pond" or "Wheel Horse." It starts out with the name "Shaw." Elmer Pond and his associates, Glen Hielman and Harold Pond worked for many years for Shaw making tractors. These tractors were produced out of motorcycle and automotive parts and were made for the bigger gardens and small orchards.

After a while the three men decided to build their own tractor and go into business for themselves. Harold Pond had worked for Shaw since the 1920’s and decided that he would make a tractor known as the Speedx Model "B," and Pond garden tractor in 1938, which would be one of the first four-, wheeled garden tractors. Glen Hielman would make the "Garden Master" in 1952.

After World War II, Elmer Pond took the advantage, as did the other two men, to make a smaller lawn tractor that could do the work of a garden tractor and a lawn tractor. People who had a small garden didn’t need or want a big tractor for the small jobs they had to do, so they depended on these men for their garden needs.

Another reason smaller garden tractors became very popular was that these tractors were rather inexpensive, so even the typical family could own one of these tractor and maintain it for a low cost.

Many of these tractors were made from small air-cooled engines, drive systems, axles, wheels, tires, and other various parts that could be found. The framework was made from pieces of angle or channel iron.

Elmer Pond started production in 1946 in his two-car garage in South Bend, Indiana. These tractors were made from crude parts that could be found. He produced a two-wheeled tractor that was self-propelled, which was sold under the Pond name. Pond made these for nine years, known as the "Walk- Away's " because the design of the tractor.

[Bruce 1960 56]

Well started tear down today. Found out it's serial no: 13310 ? or is it 17310? RJ-58. Transmisson has number 3501 N. I don't remember if I used new case or donor when I replaced gears and bearings yrs ago, but can you guys make out this date? Thanks.

Edited January 10, 2021 by Bruce 1960
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[Frankenstein 58 213]

Can’t help with the trans number but the serial number is 17310. Good luck

[AMC RULES 36,944]

Top of your trans, right side of the shifter, you'll find a boss with your transmissions mfg date.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by AMC RULES

[Bruce 1960 56]

AMC RULES, After posting yesterday, I cleaned more dirt off and found other no, D14-9 . So does this mean April 14 1959? or is it Dec 14 1959? either way I now know I used the donor transmission case. But that's fine I'm sure there are many others with replacement transmissions. I know I junked all the other parts years ago, so original case is long gone.

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[Frankenstein 58 213]

Apri 14 1959. Now that’s the serial number 

[dovetail53 18]

it means April 14 1959

[AMC RULES 36,944]

It's just a number...

on your 1958 tractor.

[Frankenstein 58 213]

Not serial number of tractor but date of trans casting. Didn’t mean to confuse the two. 

[Bruce 1960 56]

Well I started to tear this old girl apart, to give it a good rebuild. In all the years I have been around this thing, I have always thought it steered hard, and didn't turn real sharp. Well since I never had a exploded view of all parts, I never knew what the steering was supposed to consist of. This thing sheared off the pin on the steering rod just about every time it was run. It was common practice to have 16 penny nails in the tool box under seat for fast replacement. Well when I started to tear it apart,  I found out someone years ago, welded the pin to the tie rod, so both sides were welded, this meant pin could not rotate, so being a machinist I removed weld and made a new pin, put back together and it turns lock to lock!! So now I'm making all new parts that are wore out. This thing will drive like a caddy when I get done!! I'm having a ball!! 

 

Edited January 19, 2021 by Bruce 1960
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