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ebinmaine

Trina's "otha tracta", the 867 we got from @buckrancher and Mrs 'rancher, has a noisy bearing in it's S/G.

Charges fine 

I've watched the video on I save tractors. Looks simple enough to rebuild.

 

Where do you all get the parts?

Is there a Redsquare vendor that sells them?

 

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Mike'sHorseBarn

Norman at isavetractors.com has them, and he is even located in maine!!

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ebinmaine
10 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

Norman at isavetractors.com has them, and he is even located in maine!!

Yep.

Just opened a warehouse in South Portland right near me.

No walk up service though.

 

I'd order from him if we don't have a vendor of our own listed.

 

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WHX??

Yank it apart EB and you'll find they are common bearings and fleabay crawls with them. I forget the number but real common. Give her a good blow job to get all the dirt out, check the brushes and clean up the comutator and you'll be good to go. I got a good cheap source for replacements for them if need be. 

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ebinmaine
4 minutes ago, WHX22 said:

Yank it apart EB and you'll find they are common bearings and fleabay crawls with them. I forget the number but real common. Give her a good blow job to get all the dirt out, check the brushes and clean up the comutator and you'll be good to go. I got a good cheap source for replacements for them if need be. 

Super cool Jim.... We'll get her torn into in the next week or two here.

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WHX??

No problem EB...I have seen them with oiler cups on them tho..don't have one of those so no idea what's in them for bearings. 

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Achto
30 minutes ago, WHX22 said:

I have seen them with oiler cups on them tho..don't have one of those so no idea what's in them for bearings.

 

Some of the ones with oiler caps will have bushings instead of bearings.

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oliver2-44

When you clean it be gentle on the old insulation.  There's a fine line between getting all the carbon & dirt off the insulation since it's conductive verses doing to harsh a cleaning and damaging the insulation.  Also electrical safety solvents such as those available at the hardware store or electrical supply work well. But t.t.t.those modern solvents could also dissolve the insulating varnish on the coils.  Spray some of the solvent in a container and dab a spot a few times with a brush to test.  A small artist brush is a good cleaning tool.  

 

Working at the dams with 1940-50 vintage equipment, we routinely used water based solvents Windex (yes windex) , Simple Green, Precision Clean.  Precision Clean was my favorite and actually had an electrical dielectric rating of quite a few thousand volts. After you use a water based solvent, rinse with clean water.  We used distilled water on high voltage 15,000 volt equipment.  After you clean it with a water based product (or any cleaner) set it in a warm dry place that has some ventilation for a few days (electric heater on low)  I know your cringing as you think that water and electricity don;t mix....but modern electrical solvents could work great or they could soften/dissolve your insulation too.  

 

So test what ever you use on a small spot first! 

 

PS Take us along on your starter generator rebuild.  I have one to rebuild one day also!

 

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ebinmaine
5 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

know your cringing as you think that water and electricity don;t mix......  

 

 

PS Take us along on your starter generator rebuild.  I have one to rebuild one day also!

No worries there.

That was one of the myths of science we learned back in school.

Water is NOT electrically conductive as most believe. It's the minerals suspended in it that are.

I ain't scare't o' washing that out.

 

We'll be sure to document how things go with the rebuild.

:handgestures-thumbupright:

 

I'll throw the "disassembly department" an impact wrench and have her rip it open.

 

 

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squonk

I think that bearing is a common 6201 bearing. Can find it at Napa. They should be able to get next day of not on the shelf

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squonk

I save tractors had a video on how to rebuild the genny.

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ebinmaine
2 minutes ago, squonk said:

I save tractors had a video on how to rebuild the genny.

I've watched it.

Good video.

That'll be the training tool for us along with this site.

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dclarke

Eric, The bearing is a 6203. 

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ebinmaine

Would you guys not replace the brushes unless needed or just do them because you're in there?

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squonk
41 minutes ago, dclarke said:

Eric, The bearing is a 6203. 

I thought the same thing. But some generator kits have a 6201 bearing. Still a common one. Pull it apart and measure. You can probably have a new one in your hand within a day

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Mike'sHorseBarn
46 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Would you guys not replace the brushes unless needed or just do them because you're in there?

 

I'd do it just because I had it apart. If you do it now, you'll probably never have to do it again in your lifetime! 

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oliver2-44
7 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I'll throw the "disassembly department" an impact wrench and have her rip it open.

 

Might be better to make her the cleaning department and let her use her gentle side on it!

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ebinmaine
46 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

Might be better to make her the cleaning department and let her use her gentle side on it!

Watchoo talkin about??

 

I can be gentle.

 

You know.

 

Like the old proverbial bull in a china shop.......

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WHX??
5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

bull in a china shop

This don't help either.....:laughing-rolling:

all thumbs.jpg

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ebinmaine
Just now, WHX22 said:

This don't help either.....:laughing-rolling:

all thumbs.jpg

Oh man. I can't decide if that's scary or disgusting or funny.

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WHX??

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/all--thumbs

Just sayin...... we all think your better half might really be your better half!  :ychain:

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ebinmaine
22 hours ago, WHX22 said:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/all--thumbs

Just sayin...... we all think your better half might really be your better half!  :ychain:

You THINK?

 

Let me just go ahead and verify that.

 

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Lee1977

6203 bearing 40mm OD 17mm ID and 12mm width . Common  Chevy alternator bearing from the 70's .  The same bearing is also used in Wheel Horse metric mower base spindles. 

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WHX??

'Nother good reason to have a few on the shelf Lee.

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