BHunter 1,650 #1 Posted January 3, 2019 Today I pulled the I’d tag off my 61 suburban. Cleaned it up and was able to barely read the numbers. It says 43810. It doesn’t seem to be stamped or engraved as deep as my 1960 . I saw there is a database for the 1961s but I didn’t see one for the 1960s. I was wondering if there is one for the 1960 model? I read somewhere that wheel horse cut the I’d plates that were used on the 60s . It’s true, they cut through the letter C on this one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,442 #2 Posted January 4, 2019 Click on the picture There are 2 lists for 1961. One by model number and one by serial number so members could see how they were produced. Did the 43810 cover up the 29068 or whatever it is? Never heard of them being cut. What was the reason? If you see a SN in the file name there are serial numbers added. If you see a sn in the file name there are none yet. (If I've done it correctly) Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,770 #3 Posted January 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Never heard of them being cut. What was the reason? Me either and have had quite a few 1960 tractors over the years. I'm confused. Are you saying that cut ID plate is from a 61? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 36,937 #4 Posted January 4, 2019 Where did that "cut" thing come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #5 Posted January 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, wallfish said: Me either and have had quite a few 1960 tractors over the years. I'm confused. Are you saying that cut ID plate is from a 61? 45 minutes ago, wallfish said: Me either and have had quite a few 1960 tractors over the years. I'm confused. Are you saying that cut ID plate is from a 61? July 2013 @CasualObserver wrote this. Suburban serial locations. (These are the general locations... some may vary occasionally.) 1958/59 RJ-58 - left frame rail just behind the hood. 1959 RJ-59 - As far as I know of, no one has ever documented finding one. 1960 Suburban - Stamped into the metal throttle/choke plate just under the upper screw. 1961 Suburban - early used the top section of the 1960 plate, cut off and screwed to the hood stand. 1961 Suburban - later used a decal on the right frame rail ahead of the foot peg. im saying that my 61 has a cut plate that matches my 60 full length plate. I laid it on top of my 60 plate and the C for choke lines up together. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #6 Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, gwest_ca said: Click on the picture There are 2 lists for 1961. One by model number and one by serial number so members could see how they were produced. Did the 43810 cover up the 29068 or whatever it is? Never heard of them being cut. What was the reason? If you see a SN in the file name there are serial numbers added. If you see a sn in the file name there are none yet. (If I've done it correctly) Garry Hi Gary, I found the SN file. Do the serial numbers on the list represent the tractors that are owned by Red square members? No it didn’t cover it up. The plates are from 2 different tractors I own. Thanks for the info, Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 36,937 #7 Posted January 4, 2019 OK, that's legit, I remember reading Jason's original post now. Pretty sure I have at some point, seen one of these cut tags factory applied mid point of the right side of the hood stand. May have saved the pict, will have to look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #8 Posted January 4, 2019 That’s exactly where I found my 61 tag. I find learning about the history of these tractors interesting. I found it cool to discover on my tractors what another member wrote about. This fourm and the people on it are great. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,770 #9 Posted January 4, 2019 Hmmm, Never remember reading Jason's post and never had a 61 with a cut metal tag either. Bet there isn't too many of those around!!! Nice score @BHunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,162 #10 Posted January 4, 2019 is this the tag off a 401? my 701 just has a sticker, unfortunately my 551 is gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evanloock 212 #11 Posted January 4, 2019 My 551 has a cut 1960 metal tag affixed to the rectifier cover. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #12 Posted January 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, jabelman said: is this the tag off a 401? my 701 just has a sticker, unfortunately my 551 is gone Yes it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #13 Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, wallfish said: Hmmm, Never remember reading Jason's post and never had a 61 with a cut metal tag either. Bet there isn't too many of those around!!! Nice score @BHunter Thanks. I bet you’re right . This 61 is pretty nice. It even came with a plow on it. The transmission was locked up on it when I got it. Me and the previous owner had to pick it up and put it in my truck. It bounced around in my truck bed for an hour and a half on the way home, and the trans got unstuck. I changed the fluid and it works good now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 8,770 #14 Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, AMC RULES said: OK, that's legit, I remember reading Jason's original post now. Pretty sure I have at some point, seen one of these cut tags factory applied mid point of the right side of the hood stand. May have saved the pict, will have to look. The 551 I am rebuilding has a cut tag just as pictures above and it was on the right side of the hood stand. Somewhere on here i read that the though was the Ponds had leftover tags from 1960 so being frugal as they were, they cut them to use on the 1961, 551's Edited January 4, 2019 by oliver2-44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #15 Posted January 4, 2019 Well the "New-to-me" 1960 400 Suburban throttle/choke dash plate that mentioned an ID serial number is way too recognizably gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #16 Posted January 4, 2019 @AMC RULES I noticed that your 1960 "400" pictures had a belt guard plate. None of the manuals that I noticed referred to that part. I like yours! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,442 #17 Posted January 4, 2019 7 hours ago, BHunter said: Hi Gary, I found the SN file. Do the serial numbers on the list represent the tractors that are owned by Red square members? Bob Long before Red Square existed I started recording any serial numbers I came across. Has been an interesting process. Is the number 29068 and what model of tractor? Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #18 Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, gwest_ca said: Long before Red Square existed I started recording any serial numbers I came across. Has been an interesting process. Is the number 29068 and what model of tractor? Garry I admire your passion and dedication. The number is 29060 . It’s a 1960 400. I also have another 1960 400 , I’ll get you that number after I get home from work. Thanks, Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHunter 1,650 #19 Posted January 4, 2019 10 hours ago, BHunter said: I admire your passion and dedication. The number is 29060 . It’s a 1960 400. I also have another 1960 400 , I’ll get you that number after I get home from work. Thanks, Bob My other 1960 400 has serial number 23719. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites