Csanderson0628 0 #1 Posted October 28, 2018 Hello everyone, I have another issue. So I have a key ignition problem. I replaced with a new ignition and still not working. When I turn the key, it does nothing. I can put power to the coil and by pass the relay and it will start. Does anyone know what could be the issue or know how to by pass the ignition for temporary? Model k341as Thank you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,129 #2 Posted October 28, 2018 Did you get a battery ignition, ignition switch Has an "I" terminal not an "M" terminal?? Do you have 12 volts at the B terminal of the switch? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris G 3,274 #3 Posted October 28, 2018 Could possibly be a safety switch problem and not the key switch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #4 Posted October 28, 2018 Depending on the machine….Safety Switch, wrong ignition switch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,536 #5 Posted October 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, Csanderson0628 said: When I turn the key, it does nothing. By this do you mean the engine will not turn over and there is no change in the Amp/Volt meter? Solenoid doesn't click? How are the present symptoms compared to the symptoms prior to the new ignition switch being installed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOB ELLISON 2,976 #6 Posted October 28, 2018 A picture of the tractor would help a lot. The k341 is the engine but not the model of the tractor. There are different key switch types. The picture will tell us what you need. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 443 #7 Posted October 28, 2018 There are a couple of things it could be for one there is often a safety switch for the brake petal so you have to depress the brake petal to start it the wiring for that could be faulty. Another problem that I had was one of the wires going to the voltimeter/ampimeter was loose and that caused the same problem of not starting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredrider 2,547 #8 Posted October 28, 2018 A K341AS is a cradle mount engine. There is a ground wire on the cradle. Check to see if it is broken, loose etc. Without it connected, it won't start or run 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,563 #9 Posted October 30, 2018 On the safety switches, you could bypass one at a time by disconnecting both wires and using a paper clip or another section of wire pushed into the terminals to make a normally closed circuit. That’s heating troubleshooting 101, right @WHX21 Jim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,536 #10 Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, pullstart said: On the safety switches, you could bypass one at a time by disconnecting both wires and using a paper clip or another section of wire pushed into the terminals to make a normally closed circuit. That’s heating troubleshooting 101, right @WHX21 Jim? Check your wiring diagram first, not all safety switches are "NO" (normally open). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,563 #11 Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Check your wiring diagram first, not all safety switches are "NO" (normally open). Very good point that not all safety switches are NO, but the circuit as a whole needs to be closed to get power to the coil or the starter solenoid right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,536 #12 Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) On 10/28/2018 at 10:57 AM, Csanderson0628 said: I replaced with a new ignition and still not working. Please let us know if any of the previous suggestions have been helpful. I presume you are working on a late '70s or early '80s C-16?, fill us in please. Not all Wheel Horses have the same wiring and safety switches. Edited October 31, 2018 by 953 nut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
