‘77 B80 Frame (short or long)

[ryanmfairbank 26]

I have a 1977 B80 Wheel Horse...I’ve been told this model was made with both short and long frames...how do I determine which mine is and what I need to know before buying a plow?

 

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[Chris G 3,274]

My 77 is a long frame.

[ryanmfairbank 26]

@Chris G Do you know how to tell?

[Chris G 3,274]

Long frames    45.5"
Short frames    41.25"
Mid Frames    43"    

[Chris G 3,274]

This should be helpful. It's a posting from another thread here called long frames vs short frames

 

From my notes gathered from folks who know!

Long frames    45.5"
Short frames    41.25"
Mid Frames    43"    
1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches 
"A short frame will have a wheel base of 41-1/4 inches and a long 
frame has a wheel base of 45-1/2 inches. The 1972 to 1975 
Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches 
but the C-series and 300 series 8 hp models were long frames . 
Another way to tell is by horse power , any Wheel Horse model with 
10 hp or more has a long frame starting from the 1966 model 1056 . 
In 1969 the last short frame model was built , the Workhorse 700 had 
a 7 hp horziontal shaft Tecumseh engine and three speed 
transmission . Any old round hood will be a short frame and all but 
one six speed model was a long frame (the 1967 model 867 was a short 
frame)"

The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966.

Here is a list of short frame Wheel Horses.

1961 - 701
1962 - 502, 552, 702, Lawn Ranger
1963 - 603, 633, 653, 753, Lawn Ranger
1964 - 604, 654, 704, 754, 854, 1045, Lawn Ranger
1965 - 605, 655, 855, 875, 1075, 1055, Lawn Ranger
1966 - 606, 656, 856, 876, Lawn Ranger
1967 - 607, 657, 857, 867, Lawn Ranger
1968 - Commando 6, Commando 8, '500' SPECIAL, Lawn Ranger
1969 - WORKHORSE 700

Other tractors like the 1974 and 1975 model B-80 were considered a mid frame

[ryanmfairbank 26]

Thank you @Chris G ! I really appreciate the info! So, do these few inches matter when it comes to a plow?

[Chris G 3,274]

Yes theres a short frame plow and long frame plow 

[953 nut 51,536]

1 hour ago, Chris G said:

The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966.

That is all good information, but with Wheel Horse rules there is always an exception!                   The 1963 model 953 was longer than a long frame followed by the 1054 and 1054A and the GT-14 was even longer.

[ebinmaine 62,974]

1 hour ago, ryanmfairbank said:

Thank you @Chris G ! I really appreciate the info! So, do these few inches matter when it comes to a plow?

 

27 minutes ago, Chris G said:

Yes theres a short frame plow and long frame plow 

 

 

Ryan, the 1974 and 1975 B series 8 horse tractors had a mid frame length and should be able to use the long frame plow with no modifications.

 

 

[ryanmfairbank 26]

So what is the length of the long frame plow? This plow I’m looking at is advertised as 69.5 from blade to end of frame...

Edited September 28, 2018 by ryanmfairbank

[wallfish 15,911]

Show a pic of the frame. Most have 2 sets of holes at the rear to fit both short and long frame tractors. Just move the 5/8" rod.

[wallfish 15,911]

Found one

[ryanmfairbank 26]

Great! Thanks guys...