ryanmfairbank 26 #1 Posted September 27, 2018 I have a 1977 B80 Wheel Horse...I’ve been told this model was made with both short and long frames...how do I determine which mine is and what I need to know before buying a plow? 71-08K801-10938 7060 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris G 3,274 #2 Posted September 27, 2018 My 77 is a long frame. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryanmfairbank 26 #3 Posted September 27, 2018 @Chris G Do you know how to tell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris G 3,274 #4 Posted September 27, 2018 Long frames 45.5" Short frames 41.25" Mid Frames 43" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris G 3,274 #5 Posted September 27, 2018 This should be helpful. It's a posting from another thread here called long frames vs short frames From my notes gathered from folks who know! Long frames 45.5" Short frames 41.25" Mid Frames 43" 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches "A short frame will have a wheel base of 41-1/4 inches and a long frame has a wheel base of 45-1/2 inches. The 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches but the C-series and 300 series 8 hp models were long frames . Another way to tell is by horse power , any Wheel Horse model with 10 hp or more has a long frame starting from the 1966 model 1056 . In 1969 the last short frame model was built , the Workhorse 700 had a 7 hp horziontal shaft Tecumseh engine and three speed transmission . Any old round hood will be a short frame and all but one six speed model was a long frame (the 1967 model 867 was a short frame)" The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966. Here is a list of short frame Wheel Horses. 1961 - 701 1962 - 502, 552, 702, Lawn Ranger 1963 - 603, 633, 653, 753, Lawn Ranger 1964 - 604, 654, 704, 754, 854, 1045, Lawn Ranger 1965 - 605, 655, 855, 875, 1075, 1055, Lawn Ranger 1966 - 606, 656, 856, 876, Lawn Ranger 1967 - 607, 657, 857, 867, Lawn Ranger 1968 - Commando 6, Commando 8, '500' SPECIAL, Lawn Ranger 1969 - WORKHORSE 700 Other tractors like the 1974 and 1975 model B-80 were considered a mid frame 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryanmfairbank 26 #6 Posted September 27, 2018 Thank you @Chris G ! I really appreciate the info! So, do these few inches matter when it comes to a plow? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris G 3,274 #7 Posted September 27, 2018 Yes theres a short frame plow and long frame plow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,646 #8 Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Chris G said: The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966. That is all good information, but with Wheel Horse rules there is always an exception! The 1963 model 953 was longer than a long frame followed by the 1054 and 1054A and the GT-14 was even longer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,093 #9 Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ryanmfairbank said: Thank you @Chris G ! I really appreciate the info! So, do these few inches matter when it comes to a plow? 27 minutes ago, Chris G said: Yes theres a short frame plow and long frame plow Ryan, the 1974 and 1975 B series 8 horse tractors had a mid frame length and should be able to use the long frame plow with no modifications. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryanmfairbank 26 #10 Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) So what is the length of the long frame plow? This plow I’m looking at is advertised as 69.5 from blade to end of frame... Edited September 28, 2018 by ryanmfairbank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,918 #11 Posted September 28, 2018 Show a pic of the frame. Most have 2 sets of holes at the rear to fit both short and long frame tractors. Just move the 5/8" rod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,918 #12 Posted September 28, 2018 Found one 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryanmfairbank 26 #13 Posted September 28, 2018 Great! Thanks guys... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites