Jump to content
Joshn569

New project - Raider 12 six speed

Recommended Posts

 
rjg854

:WRS: you should be able to find the help you may need, here.  While you're showing this tractor some much need TLC, you might want to check the head gasket and the axle seals.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
953 nut
6 hours ago, Joshn569 said:

are the mower decks interchangable by any chance

:WRS:                                                    :text-coolphotos:

You will need to add a mule drive to the front of the tractor for the mower drive belt, otherwise it will accept the later deck.

Edited by 953 nut
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Mike'sHorseBarn

I like that creative way of keeping the carb linkage connected to the governor arm. :D

  • Haha 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Achto

Nice looking tractor!! :handgestures-thumbupright: It looks like some one may have done an engine swap or it is an early production '68. I'm saying this because of the starter/gen. The Raider normally has a Bendix starter. If you could, post a pic of the serial number plate. It's located under the dash panel. (Never mind, looks like this was covered in your earlier post)

Like mentioned above it looks like you should address some of the seals for sure. If the tranny was full of water it wouldn't be a bad idea to pull it apart & check the bearings.

I have a '68 Raider in process right now. IMG_20180105_164733165-min.jpg.eebd22cb79be760b16278ea8ad84be49.jpg

Edited by Achto
  • Like 3
  • Excellent 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
hm12460

Looks like a fun project.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

Shifter boot is completly ripped. Lots of water was in there. There is some shines of metal in the oil. Going to flush it and see what happens. All that water in there freezing up probably blew the seals out. 

 

 

 

 

20180201_230335.jpg

20180201_224144.jpg

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

I did get it running and driving today. Im going to drop the oil again and see how it looks. It did let out a few backfire pops. Probably going to pull head and carb off. It does run tho and i think she is worth the time and money.

 

What should the compression be at?

 

Took some videos of it also

 

8 hours ago, Achto said:

Nice looking tractor!! :handgestures-thumbupright: It looks like some one may have done an engine swap or it is an early production '68. I'm saying this because of the starter/gen. The Raider normally has a Bendix starter. If you could, post a pic of the serial number plate. It's located under the dash panel. (Never mind, looks like this was covered in your earlier post)

Like mentioned above it looks like you should address some of the seals for sure. If the tranny was full of water it wouldn't be a bad idea to pull it apart & check the bearings.

I have a '69 Raider in process right now. IMG_20180105_164733165-min.jpg.eebd22cb79be760b16278ea8ad84be49.jpg

Im debating going all out like you did. Do you have a thread i can follow the progress on? Looks like fun👍

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
rjg854

Sweet, well worth going through and making sure everything is up to snuff. You've going to end up with a real decent tractor. I didn't see any smoke coming from the engine, that's a very huge positive! 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Achto
3 hours ago, Joshn569 said:

Do you have a thread i can follow the progress on?

 

Haven't gotten very far yet, I need some above 30degree days so I can do some painting. Hard to heat and ventilate the shop when it gets below 30. Here's a link to my posts. Thanks for your interest.

 

3 hours ago, Joshn569 said:

What should the compression be at?

 

It is hard to take a compression test on the Kohler K models as they have an auto decompression release for easier starting. Basically if it's not smoking or using oil, I'd run it.

Edited by Achto
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

Im all in. 😀

 

Any tips on getting the steering wheel off the shaft?

 

And is there any info on the start/generator i can read up on? Im not familiar with how that unit works. I didnt check to see if it was charging before hand and i wish i did.

20180204_011154.jpg

20180203_225233.jpg

20180203_232812.jpg

20180204_011205.jpg

20180203_233457.jpg

20180203_232241.jpg

20180204_003911.jpg

20180204_001947.jpg

20180204_010429.jpg

20180203_225717.jpg

20180204_005700.jpg

20180204_000540.jpg

20180204_000242.jpg

20180203_232825.jpg

20180203_235756.jpg

  • Like 4
  • Excellent 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
953 nut

:text-coolphotos:           Here is some good information on S/G units. There are lots of threads on here about steering wheel removal, good luck.

Starter Generator Assembly Trouble shooting.docx

  • Like 1
  • Excellent 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
rjg854

That's a real good start, getting it torn down let the fun begin :text-coolphotos: 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

Made some more progress tonight.  Lots of metal in the gear box oil so i prep it and got her ready to split cases open. Found a small crack on the underside. Hope its a casting mark and not damage from ice freezing up inside. Time will tell.

20180204_213044.jpg

20180204_185644.jpg

20180204_152055.jpg

20180204_212934.jpg

20180204_182727.jpg

20180204_161044.jpg

20180204_185949.jpg

20180204_165109.jpg

20180204_181739.jpg

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Sarge

Looks like a typical sand casting line - hopefully.

 

Sarge

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Achto

:text-yeahthat: It looks like a casting mark to me also. Look like you dove in head first.:handgestures-thumbupright: Enjoy your project.

If you find that you need to rebuild the tranny, here is a link for a good source for rebuild kits https://www.wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/transmissions.html#!/Base-Kit-4/p/85721186/category=23548039

He also has kits that include the #1533 & #7207 bearing if you need to go that far.

 

Check out the @stevasaurus video's on the 5060 transmission to help guide you through the process.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxpigBM-CFt3jm0aCxvxw

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Excellent 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

Got the trans split open. Kind of nasty inside.

Hi/Lo shift fork has a lot of wear. The gears have some wear also on the teeth. 

I will try and get the other shafts out and inspected next day or so and get a parts list together. 

 

Let me know what you guys think or see thus far

20180206_182713.jpg

20180206_182641.jpg

20180206_191212.jpg

20180206_181340.jpg

20180206_182728.jpg

20180206_192707.jpg

20180206_190837.jpg

20180206_192825.jpg

20180206_192459.jpg

20180206_191413.jpg

20180206_182723.jpg

20180206_182641.jpg

20180206_182618.jpg

20180206_182649.jpg

20180206_192437.jpg

20180206_182623.jpg

20180206_192735.jpg

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
WHX??

Thanks for the pics Johsn... the good news is that trannny looks to be saveable.

I was under the impression that the S/G motors went away in late '67 and all of the '68 Raiders had bendix starters and mag ignition but who knows fer sure? You might be sitting on a early 68 where they were useing a few 67 motors up? Keep the :text-coolphotos: coming! 

Dan note the AL diff. ends? 

Diff nuts toward the right? I bet this one has never beeen opened before. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Achto
10 hours ago, WHX14 said:

Dan note the AL diff. ends? 

Diff nuts toward the right? I bet this one has never beeen opened before. 

 

Yep, looks exactly like mine.:handgestures-thumbupright:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
WHX??

Then again looking at you pics Joshn Someone might have been in that tranny before. Clues are no nyloc nuts on case bolts and unpainted capped bearings.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
pfrederi

Interested in seeing the spring inside your differential when you get it open.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

Put my oldest son to work today cleaning with a tooth brush. 👍

 

Waiting on some chemicals and cleaners i ordered online so i can clean up all the parts in a make shift parts washer. At this point, i think kit #4 and a new shift fork should do it. 

20180207_134553.jpg

20180207_140815.jpg

20180207_132143.jpg

20180207_134200.jpg

20180207_133829.jpg

20180207_141455.jpg

20180207_134024.jpg

20180207_140819.jpg

20180207_141548.jpg

20180207_133845.jpg

20180207_135908.jpg

20180207_134111.jpg

6 hours ago, WHX14 said:

Then again looking at you pics Joshn Someone might have been in that tranny before. Clues are no nyloc nuts on case bolts and unpainted capped bearings.

I was wondering that myself being there was no paint on them

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
WHX??

Yup @wheelhorseman's # 4 will make it like new again! :handgestures-thumbupright: You can use kerosene & small paint brush for a makeshift parts washer but be sure to tell yer boy no smoking!

  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Joshn569

not much to report. Just been cleaning and removing paint. Initially i was going to just paint over the frame but i decided to strip it down to bare metal and will use rustoleum etching primer. Decided on rustoleum regal red with rustoleum clear. I dont typically paint my projects myself ( i have done a few dirt bikes and old trucks ect) but i have been studying up on how to get a nice looking rattle can job. 

 

Hope to order my trans rebuild kit with in the next week or 2. Then i will tear into the motor. This has been a fun project so far and a joy to work on this old tractor.  A lot of excellant builds and projects on red square that have really inspired me! I kind of feel a little guilty as i have never done anything to my c81 except a quick tune up and grease job. Hope she dont get to jelous

20180210_162921.jpg

20180211_193926.jpg

20180209_235814.jpg

20180209_234104.jpg

  • Like 6
  • Excellent 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Tankman

Great project! Certainly worth all efforts to save the Horse!

 

Grandson decided te Raider is "his" Stallion. Shall see when his legs sprout.  :ROTF:

Right now he'll be on his Mustang first!

WH-Milo.thumb.jpg.784614cc60817dd9841da640b406bc2f.jpg Mustang.jpg.ad76010b35ec9ac6cba75c7131743a7e.jpg

Edited by Tankman
  • Like 3
  • Excellent 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...