SteveK440 30 #1 Posted January 3, 2018 Hello, I found A 1989 416-8 for sale approx 100 miles from my home with 825 Hours on a Onan engine, decent paint not faded or rust with a few charter flaws from the pictures. I will try to post pictures later if not sold. there is some minor things like missing dash light covers and minor rust on gauges. He clams the drive belt came off and is asking $700.00. My question is do you consider this a reasonable purchase and what should I pay attention of mechanical detail? One question I have for him is there any problem with the trans. My last question is do you think I could offer him $600? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,466 #2 Posted January 3, 2018 If the Onan runs well and the tractor isn't showing signs of neglect it sounds like a great buy. The transaxle on these will interchange with the majority of eight speeds so if the transmission has a problem you will be OK. The most likely cause of it throwing a drive belt is a bad idler pulley, easy inexpensive fix. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,577 #3 Posted January 3, 2018 to the Steve. You didn't mention any implements. I would offer 20% less than the listed price and negotiate from there. Like Richard stated, the belt idler is an easy fix, and the 8 speeds are pretty much bullet proof. I would make sure it shifts and rolls easily in all 8 gears. Go get it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,256 #5 Posted January 3, 2018 Is he saying the belt came off because it won't move? Check it out and if the belt is still on it's most likely one of the hub keys of input pulley key. It only takes one. In any case, almost certainly a simple fix. I would jump on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,515 #6 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Ditto. Not that far away, bring that Horse home. Be sure to update your post, we Stallions welcome newcomers to the pastures. Get the Horse before hillbillies get there first! They love Stallions. Edited January 4, 2018 by Tankman 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedPaul 50 #9 Posted January 4, 2018 Steve I have a 416-8 with an Onan that is my worker (snow plow, mower, log puller, fence stretcher, dead man, go cart) and I love it. It had a few less hours, I paid almost $800 and the tin is kinda banged up. You will not be disappointed with that Stallion leading your herd. You didn't say if any implements come with it but for the price I paid I got a blade, a mower deck in reasonably good shape and a brand new set of mower blades. It can't hurt to start with a low $ offer. You can always go $ up. Personally it has never turned out well trying to go $ down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,487 #10 Posted January 4, 2018 I have a 416-8 with the big single Kohler. A workhorse of a horse. See how it runs, no smoke etc on the Onan. They are pricey to fix, IMHO. Its hard to check out if you cant take it for a spin. Best of luck and . . Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 36,940 #11 Posted January 4, 2018 Hey, isn't that Ed Kennell there on the right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,577 #12 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Dunno Craig, I was thinkin BRF. BTW, how come you're not out there with your big yellow scraper cleaning up those Joisey roads? Edited January 4, 2018 by Ed Kennell 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveK440 30 #13 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys the fast replies. I've been lurking your sight but finally decided to sign up. Extra thank you to Ed for giving me a bargain tip. You also asked if any impliments but it only comes with the deck. Talked to the owner hopefully we can play American Haglers this week end. I tried to enclose a image for you to evaluate. 7 minutes ago, SteveK440 said: Thanks guys the fast replies. I've been lurking your sight but finally decided to sign up. Extra thank you to Ed for giving me a bargain tip. You also asked if any impliments but it only comes with the deck. Talked to the owner hopefully we can play American Haglers this week end. I tried to enclose a image for you to evaluate. Edited January 5, 2018 by SteveK440 Typo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericj 1,576 #14 Posted January 5, 2018 I have 3 89 416-8's I'm in negotiations to sell one possibly, good tractors with plenty of power, good luck eric j Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,670 #15 Posted January 5, 2018 Good thing you don’t live any closer Eric or I’d have to buy one for a Furrow Plow Tractor! With the Onan and GD tranny—that would be a beast in the field!!! Steve—that looks like one nice machine, don’t drag your feet or it will be gone!!! to the best GT forum Around! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,577 #16 Posted January 5, 2018 If that is a recent picture Steve, It looks good. Straight tin, fair seat, and a good 48" deck that is worth 3-400 bucks alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveK440 30 #17 Posted January 22, 2018 Well I bit the horse harness last week end, hitch up my neighbors trailer, and prayed I was not about to find a disappointment or go home with no horse. You guys were correct about its hard to negotiate price, but other than the mower deck rotted in one spot I feel like it has potential. Her exhaust seems to pop every once in awhile at half throttle but she purrs like a kitty at idle. Hoping to add some mods to her in the near future and toying with my brain of a reto mod of a Combined 70's and 90's look. Tried to upload a video so you could hear it run but couldn't find how to insert a youtube video. Willing to try if if some ne could educate me. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,462 #18 Posted January 22, 2018 Put your video on another tab/window - copy and paste it's address into the text box on a reply to your thread . The site will automatically link the video and insert it. I know it works easily with FireFox , others browsers vary. Nice score - looks like pretty good shape. Sarge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,337 #19 Posted January 22, 2018 Congratulations on the "new" tractor. I have a 416-8 also, but mine's a 1988 with the single cylinder M16 Kohler Magnum. Mine is approaching 3700 hours, if the hour meter is correct, that is. I do know from it's condition it's probably close enough to that hour number. Mine still runs okay, but is starting to shows signs of wear, i.e. smoking. I'll use it till it quits, and then might repower it. Yours is in a nice cosmetic shape than mine is, but I only paid $300 for mine a couple of years ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveK440 30 #20 Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the compliments...let's see if I can try to post my YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQqedFRZyDg Edited January 25, 2018 by T-Mo Imbedded video 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,670 #21 Posted January 25, 2018 Great Video! You’ll have to do another one when you have someone else around who can video you driving it, especially with that gear slammer!Nice tractor—I like the sound of those big Onan’s. What is the story with the missing loop around the PTO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveK440 30 #22 Posted January 25, 2018 The Seller busted the Mower belt and stop using after he tried fixing himself. I still have all hardware. He later confessed that he would plow his ditch with the Mower.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites