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I've been using vinegar to clean rust from the inside of gas tanks and it works very well. Since the vinegar was just sitting in a bowl after recently doing a tank, I decided to throw in a rusted pulley which shows the results much better than trying to get a pic of the inside of a tank. These 2 pulleys looked just about identical before soaking one. I let it soak for 2 days and wiped it off with a cloth. Using baking soda afterwards will neutralize the vinegar's acid. There are quite a few other posts on the subject, just type "vinegar" in the search feature.

It had to be didn't it

1964 604

604 & 500 special

Here is my 57, 58 & 59 RJ.

Figured I would throw this one out there for consideration. untitled.bmp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roz22ku5OuY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu48aGgLkzw

1968 500 Special

My 50th anniversary 314 and my Son's custom pedal tractor.

After the storm, the clear up.

This is my new to me and my first Wheel Horse. Its a little dirty I had to mow the grass with it even though the grass was wet. I couldn't resist. I also have a tiller for it.

Forgot where I heard or read about it but I remember it as cider vinegar working the best but any type will probably do. I do like the rusty stuff Steve, just not inside my gas tanks. Or on pulleys LOL For cleaning out gas tanks it helps to add a handful of screws or two, depending on the size. I use sheet rock screws because they have sharp edges. Shake and swirl them around every once in a while to scrape the rust off too.

Also when draining the trans, lift the front of the tractor as high as you can. There is a boss around the middle bolt that traps oil in the front part of the transmission. Raising the front of the tractor will empty a lot of that oil into the section with the drain plug. This is a hydro, but the pic shows the boss that acts as a dam to the front part of the case draining.

Hey everyone. As you know I'm hot and heavy into wheel horses now and many of you have answered many of my questions and helped me TREMENDOUSLY. But I've finally decided to give my horse a paint job and I thought I'd post pictures along the way. Here's the engine cleaned,sanded, prepped and primed. This is the first thing I've done. :)

Morning all, I hope I am putting this in the right section here... Although it's to do with a Wheel Horse's, it's not a Wheel Horse build.. So why have I been so quiet? Well, the build itself hasn't been too taxing.. But the filming and editing has. With so much footage to sort out I knew that if I didn't edit every evening I would never get it done... So has the time spent been worth it?? I think so.. Hard work but very enjoyable Let me know what you think Guys 'n' Girls, because your views and opinions will help me decide in which direction to take my videos in the future...

Just when I though the workload getting ready for winter was coming to an end and a return to a daily presence on the forum was imminent........ along came St Jude. MONDAY We live a few miles from the land you get to see in posts and at our home in Romsey I slept right through the storm. At daylight a few trees seemed to be looking battered, all plants in big pots had been overturned etc. but no damage, even to the greenhouse. Got a call soon after 8 am from Zenia our neighbor in the New Forest to say that we'd not come off so well there, power out, trees down including one blocking the track, a field shelter upturned but the horses were ok. She was referring to the four legged kind but I'll put your mind at rest, the barn came out unscathed and so none of the red kind were injured either. Arrived to find her husband Will already going at the tree blocking the drive with his chainsaw so joined him with mine. An hour or so later the lane was clear. Sorry about the pic quality but I only had my cell with me. Three of the field shelters escaped unscathed but this one, which was only completed days ago, caught the worst of it leaving it thus. The fence and trees had saved it from going right over and it had sustained only minor damage. Getting it down carefully would have required a truck with a HIAB crane. As the wind was still blowing it about in its unstable position there was really no option but to pull it down hoping for the best. Sure, it sustained further damage but it survived better than I'd thought - still gutting though as we only finished it days earlier. Spent the afternoon with jacks etc and managed to make it sort of ok again but there's still more work to be done. Felt better about the whole thing leaving it looking like this at the end of the first day than it might otherwise have been. With its heavy steel skids the whole 24 x 12 shelter weighs a lot but was lifted by the wind (measured on the Isle of Wight not too far away at 93 mph) as if it weighed nothing. As there were gusts of wind throught the rest of the day we left it attached to my son's Landy by strops. The problem is that in a national park a shelter has to be moveable on its skids to avoid planning permission which you might not be granted. I'll need to look at adding some pins into the ground that can be pulled out but looking at how trees were uprooted by the force of the storm I'm not sure it would have made any difference. Day 2 Apart from burning most of the branches from the first tree cut up yesterday some restoration to the electric fence system was top priority today. As I said, I'm not certain pins into the ground would have saved the shelter - the roots to trees like this one are mainly still in the ground! Just enough foliage taken off to build a temporary electric fence round the tree for now. Underneath it lies a section of a brand new dividing fence we built of the summer to split the field into two grazing areas..... best not to think about the work that went into it too much! I'll start on the tree tomorrow so I'm off first thing to get a new chain for the saw. Been meaning to do this for months as even after sharpening it really doesn't cut well any longer - I think cutting old dead oak was really what finished it off. The biggest task will have to wait for now..... No, there's not meant to be a huge bush here - the fence line runs down to the bottom of this field from the gate. There's a holly tree and a couple of willows in this thicket and here's why... The strange thing is that these trees were protected in terms of being sheltered by the barn and the bit of woodland behind yet somehow were singled out by the storm for felling. The forecasters warned that there would be a sting in the tail to this storm and I think that's what caused most of the destruction. As far as we know the shelter and the trees survived the night and the main storm but were caught by the tail end of the storm. Much more vulnerable trees and four other shelters were left standing but those hit fell in different directions. The power was out from 1 am Monday morning and not restored for just over 24 hours. We saw the helicopter out following the power lines but I guess there were so many down it just took a lot of time. Looking at what's got to be done it seems like it will be a few weeks more till I manage return to daily forum input and some work on the wheel horses. C'est la guerre! I keep telling myself it could have been a lot worse. Andy

Hello all, Does anybody know if there is any of these left, I'm over here in the UK, how do I go about getting one, there is somone selling them on ebay it says they have 5 available, however it says item doesn't ship to the United Kingdom, I have sent them a message.. And on the Wheelhorsestory.com when I add it to the shopping cart, I can't pay as it won't let me select country as UK, only USA, I really want one of theses if there is any left, so the question is, how? Many thanks

since i got it running good last night, i really wanted to run it for a little bit tonight. i even thought about a video around the neighborhood for the other thread going on here at the moment. that will need to wait as it was getting dark, but heres two videos....... running at idle....... full throttle........

Thanks so much for the veteran edition lawn ranger decals terry! My Dad surprised me with them tonight, I was so happy. He told me we are going to restore my tractor in the spring because we can't have new decals on an old rusty tractor. I plan on keeping this tractor forever so we must do this! Thank you again!

I wasn't going to post this idea because I felt it was kinda hijacking a cool thread but I can't resist now that it's been running a while. As Fordiesel69 mentioned, there is a 18hp K361. It's the same bore and stroke as the K341 but apparently the OHV and maybe carb tweaks gave it more horsepower. Even at my over ripe old age I keep learning. But it would require more clearance like the Tecky on bowtiebutler956's. Now, wouldn't it be cool to put a K361 on the star tractor here? A C180? I'll bet most folks here know where they could get the decals made.

For those bearings Jake? Remember..no naughty, all nice. Xmas is just around the corner.

Holy Cow Lane!!! That is major surgery for a small concept. I have an extra frame in the garage that I was about to tear into to try and help you out yesterday. Looking at your pictures, I am glade you got it and I do not have to mess with it yet. Thanks for sharing Lane. Great pictures.

Ok it was almost like gall bladder surgery (which ain't pretty sometimes -at least in my case it was not) but I finally got the Wheel Horse 42 inch snowplow/dozer blade pivot pin to work properly again. The pin has a cotter key in it about one inch from the outside end of the pivot pin. In the old snowplow/dozer blades (like the BD-4264 I have) the plow pivot pin is exposed and open so you can easily change the compression spring and/or cotter key that holds it in place. The pivot pin when moved by the plow handle ( or foot pedal in the case of the BD-6261,62, 63 and 64 plows) moves the snowplow right to left to center position. Here is s good picture of that set up on the BD-4264 plow : A snowplow I bought which sat outside several years at the previous owner's place had a problem. The pivot pin did not return into position and I had to determine if the spring and/or the cotter pin holding the spring were rusted away. I finally figured out the compression spring was still good and the cotter key had largely rusted on each end of the pivot pin. However the pivot pin would not come out of the frame and all I could work with was two holes on each side of the front end of the Snowplow/Dozer blade frame. I had to move the pivot pin back and forth quite a few times to wear down the remains of the cotter key to get it out of the holes the pivot pin rests in in the frame. The compression spring stayed in place without the pivot pin inserted in the frame. There are small indentations for the spring to rest in place. Here are photos of the pivot pin removed from the plow frame with cotter key remains in pin, cotter key remains removed, new cotter key inserted in pivot pin cotter key hole -one inch from the end , etc. To install new cotter pin it has to be inserted in the cotter pin hole at the end of the pivot pin through the hole in the frame of the Wheel Horse Snowplow/Dozer Blade with the compression spring held back (to the wider end of the Snowplow/dozer frame). You only have two approximately 1 1/8 inch holes on top and bottom of the snowplow frame to work in. You need good light to see , something to hold the spring out of the way of the cotter pin hole and a way to insert the cotter pin in the hole. Also the cotter key also has to be opened up the other end to keep the compression spring in place which holds the pivot pin in place on the frame. I used a high intensity flashlight, a screwdriver and a pair of needle nosed pliers to do this. Here are some photos of that operation: Now I have never seen another pivot pin have this problem before and hopefully it does not happen to many folks but I think it explains why greasing a plow should be done to keep the pivot pin, compression spring and cotter key that holds the spring in good working condition. Water and rust are the enemies of this type of equipment but not using proper maintenance like greasing can also lead to repairs.

looks great! just wish our animals understood to sleep in an extra hour!!

Don't forget to change your clocks sunday!!! Welcome to share this on your facebook to remind every one you like Wheel Horses and to change the time, LOL

That sounds good now Martin. You are making some serious progress here. Bravo!!!

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Thanks for all of the compliments on the tractor, garage and shed. The tractor is a 1984 and was in pretty bad shape when I got it. The "Before" pictures were taken after a couple of hours of cleaning. I bought it to use as a working tractor, so I made no attempt to restore it to original. In fact I changed a number of things to make it easier to work with. For paint, I used Rustoleum Pewter Gray. My garage is my work shop but in the winter I park my car in there at night. I may have overdone the outlets. I built the shed from a kit from Home Depot two years ago.

My plow tractor, the wife wanted it blue because the C160 is red so now we have a red and a blue horse

You are very welcome. It was fun and I can't wait to see the unveiling next spring.

520H with 44" two stage blower if it get's real bad a kubota L3400 with bucket loader Brian

Yes thanks Craig........ No problems at all, slept right through it. Didn't even get to use the Chainsaw. Other people and areas in the South of the country didn't. Unfortunately about 4 deaths caused by fallen Trees and a lot of damage and disruption.

I'll use a 74 B-100 Automatic, with a 37" snowthrower. Also I'm going to use a 75 B-80 4spd. with a 42" blade as a backup.

If you leave your tank and lines full... If there's any chance that mice or other rodents will get to your fuel system over the winter, I'd recommend closing your shutoff valve. Given half a chance, they'll try to chew through your fuel lines, and if your valve is open you could end up with a tank full of expensive gasoline drained all over the floor. I usually also cram one of those small wedge-shaped boxes of mouse poison under the cooling fins on the engine, or you could put one in the battery area if you take yours out for the winter. I almost always see activity the next time I check. Just be careful, make sure pets and kids can't get to it.

Ask and you shall receive. These are the pics from the listing online. I will post more once I get it.

My future son-in-law.

Yeah right...Dino don't run on Dunkin'

1996 50th anniversary model 314-8

Here's my RJ35 Brian

I was just thinking it's calendar time. I will be checking on the cost of professionally printed wall calendars for those that are interested again this year. I sent out close to 40 calendars last year. I will make the cut off day for ordering a week after Justin's file is out so those lucky enough to be included in the calendar can get one if they wish. Look for a separate thread about calendar ordering! THANK-YOU JUSTIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK!!!! Here are me "entries" 1964 704 with sweeper "Marvin" 1981 C-145 Custom 76 C160 73 12 8 spd

Up for humble consideration is my 1973 18 Auto. Completely redone by me in 2012. Pic show winter and summer. I reworked a 60 inch deck from a 520 to make the ultimate big mowing machine. Hopefully 1 pic will be considered good enough. Thank you very much for your consideration.

A fun tractor for consideration... here's my dual agged, early '58, #1188.

Like what was said above, I have found that "SEA FOAM" mixed in with the gas, works as a great stabilizer. Leave the tank full and run out the carb after shutting off the gas pet cock. I am in northern Illinois, so I run them until the end of November and get them going again in March, so they are only sitting about 3 months. Two of the four horses I have are used during the winter months...that is the best thing to do. Use them...I have found that they love the snow...if you do not get snow...run them around the block and take some videos.

Had my arm twisted by a couple of you guys so here's my D-200 in the UK Just finished it in time for the first wheel horse round up over here back in 2012. This is the task that it spent most of its time on this summer - getting rid of weeds in the grazing. To save picking up the 'What deck's that?' question - I modified a NOS 500 series deck I managed to find over here. The tractor was a bit of a wreck (understatement) when I got it and certainly would have been parted out on your side of the pond but they're rare here in the UK so I had to work with what I could get. Many thanks to all the guys (you know who you are) who helped in so many ways during the resto process. Andy

There are some really fine tractors here. I thought I'd add to the fun. Here are my pics:

Thanks for the input Slammer and Ken! I think I am going to go ahead and do a preservation instead of a restoration as there are just so many benefits to doing it this way (some mentioned above), plus, I do like the original look...Be sure to keep checking back for updates on my preservation! By the way, nice tractor there Slammer!

This summer I had the K-341 rebuilt in my 1975 Cub Cadet 1650. It is a rubber mounted engine, and was not factory equipped with the balance gears. My engine builder says to leave them out if they come so equipped. He builds alot of puller Kohler engines. I think after reading this thread, the answer to the question is now simple,.............. Leave them out.