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ol~horses

just got this B-80 (k181s) and have a problem: engine runs ok BUT stuff for choke were all in a plastic bag.

anyone have a pic of a working unit that shows throttle and clutch cables.

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WHX??

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Fellas will be along to welcome you. I'm sure one of them has a pic or 2

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ol~horses

thanks

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ebinmaine

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I have a 1974 b80 here.

I can snap a couple pics for you and if you need more. Let me know.

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Digger 66

I can be of absolutely no help other than saying :

Welcome to the forum :auto-checkeredflag:

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ebinmaine

Here's some pics of my Patriot horse.

 

This shows the choke cable as it goes into the carburetor and also how it's mounted on the side of the engine.

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This shot shows where it is held onto the side of the tractor.

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Here you can see where the cable comes up through the fuel tank bracket and attaches to the back of the lever.

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This pic shows the end of the throttle cable and the bracket that holds it and where it goes into the wheel that is attached to the engine governor.

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Let me know if there's something else you'd like to see or a different angle...

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Daddy Don

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ol~horses

thanks for all the replies!....if you positioned yourself so that  the pto lever was in front of you, you' see the of the tractor... linkage ,primairly 2 disks actuated by the gov. linkage in front  the disks pivot on one another.....  they are no longer made...think I can fix them, but don't know how the throttle cable was routed PS i gotta get a camera! appreciate the help, folks

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ebinmaine

if you can't fix the ones you have, get ahold of A - Z tractor and he may have something he could sell you for a few bucks off of a bad engine.

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pfrederi
33 minutes ago, ol~horses said:

thanks for all the replies!....if you positioned yourself so that  the pto lever was in front of you, you' see the of the tractor... linkage ,primairly 2 disks actuated by the gov. linkage in front  the disks pivot on one another.....  they are no longer made...think I can fix them, but don't know how the throttle cable was routed PS i gotta get a camera! appreciate the help, folks

 

 

I am not sure what disks you are referring to.  See them in this picture???

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ol~horses

sorry about causing confusion...i did find a post  that said: re k181 star percent @ !!Governor (had to use words because symbols are not printing as i type......(best i can do, only have one computer.)......that  is the unit i am talking about........the brass nut is worn out  so it binds everything up......I am reshaping the back of the nut with a small hand held grinder at present...hope this is discernable!

Thanks for your patience

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pfrederi

Check with a to Z tractor or palce a want add here.    Part number is 230476

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ol~horses

thanks for the link....not sure what the other side of brass nut/stud/disks-to-the units base assy will work, cannot tell at this point.....was kinda hoping I could resolve the problems myself....BUT (shrug)

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ol~horses

I think that if I could see the backside of the disks etc. to see  which goes over what i'd be on my way (or closer anyway)....remaking the interior end of the brass nut unit corrected one problem already!.............thanks again to all who have been making suggestions

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ebinmaine
2 hours ago, ol~horses said:

I think that if I could see the backside of the disks etc. to see  which goes over what i'd be on my way (or closer anyway)....remaking the interior end of the brass nut unit corrected one problem already!.............thanks again to all who have been making suggestions

Are you talking about the disk that the end of the throttle cable goes into?

 

I can try to get you another pic or two from different angles later.

 

 

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stevasaurus

Here is what the inside parts of the governor look like.  :)

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There are some real good pictures in this thread of the governor.  Check this out.  :)

 

 

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ol~horses

the disk and brass piece are mounted on the chasis and are part of the governor ...the backside of the disk,brass piece and arm are what i am referring to...the arm has a hole on one end,an offset and a forked opening on the other end...so you have the two pieces riding on the brass piece,i think........*chuckle....that is the backside i'm referring to....the arm with the fork is pretty ugly on the fork end....I can't  picture in my head what that looks like....btw i live 15min south of elk river

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stevasaurus

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I understand where you are talking about, I just don't get what you are trying to do.  :think:

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ol~horses

Steveasauus

the brass nut on mine had been worn down, causing a bind ...I used a little hand grinder to remove some material from the backside of the head of the brass nut...this gave me free floating (bindless) operation  THEN *chuckle, my son in law figured out how to adjust the governor unit (as  UNIT) ...yep, he IS a smart fella!...(bails me out, A-lot)....

thanks to all who have been giving me a hand!

Last but not least, cannot seem to find a ignition sw......been  to couple of suppliers without getting the proper replacement...they say the part number of their unit is a direct replacement it AIN"t.....the ones they insist is correct has the wrong contact orentation so when you release the key from start position you also lose the run circuit......anybody know what the correct part number is?

last but not least, did Wheel Horse ever make a cab that zipped up/down so you'd stay dry when blowing snow.....I've go one but don't know who made it...came with a frame attachment that attaches it to the tractor...it fits the B-80, ddon't know about the others

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ebinmaine
26 minutes ago, ol~horses said:

Last but not least, cannot seem to find a ignition sw......been  to couple of suppliers without getting the proper replacement...they say the part number of their unit is a direct replacement it AIN"t.....the ones they insist is correct has the wrong contact orentation so when you release the key from start position you also lose the run circuit......anybody know what the correct part number is?

 

 

Glad to hear yours is up and running better.

I don't know the part number off the top of my head but I can assure you they are still available.

if you do a Google search for 5 Pin tractor ignition switch with battery ignition there will be options that come up.

 

 

Companies that sell them include

 

I save tractors. Com

 

DB Electrical. Com

 

And of course the all-inclusive excellent popular auction site.

 

 

 

 

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stevasaurus

BTW...Welcome to Red Square.

 

Check out this thread for your ignition switch.

 

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ol~horses

wondering if I missed something.......while delving into the above problem I discovered that this rookie gets easily confused because when I metered the pins on both a new switch and the one that was on the unit when I got it.....the results when comparing them make no sense to me.   The old switch had perfect readings between the center pin and 2 other pins in both start and run. and a perfect reading between the center pin and 1 other pin in run position; and one unused pin.The new one :  center pin to 3 other pins ...in start mode  and 1 pin to run...tried it several times with same results.....don't dare trust the old one again as it did a BIGTIME arc when stuff hit the fan!

I am trying to choose between two suggested replacement possibilities...so..what does the schematic (hook up diagram) look like for the utube version since I'm stuck waiting for a solenoid anyway

(my brides suggestion was sell 'em all)

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ebinmaine

@953 nut

Has some wonderful schematic diagrams

 

 

 

It's okay if you don't follow the directions of your bride. Lots of us have been known to do the same thing.

 

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