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I requested reinstated to my account, Karl brought me back, I wont Joke around. I bought a 417-8 today over the phone, he said it was mint, well it wasnt, steering column pulled out from dash, engine running on turpentine,  & a List of more things, Ericj ripped my rear today TWICE saying theres some times you have to walk away, well i didnt & im out 600 bucks for a Non running 417-8, so i need your help, i called 19richy66 and he is gonna send me some info after his work. Hers 1 pic before sale, its what caught my eye for being a deal.

 

Thanks for Letting me come back Karl, oh boy, im sure i will get the texts now ;-) 

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Sarge

Stuff happens,  it looks far better than most and shouldn't take all that much to make it right.

 

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stevasaurus

Welcome back Big_Red.  :occasion-xmas:  I still hope you are planning on going to the Big Show.  :handgestures-thumbupright:  How is the engine on that horse??

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elcamino/wheelhorse

Ok Fred take your time , print out all the manuals , some of us will help you . You better be at the Big Show , you owe me a dinner. Why didn't you call me?

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squonk

Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. :) Well almost everyone. You better be at the show. I don't want Jim to be all ornery and hit me with his suspenders! :auto-ambulance: :occasion-xmas:

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953 nut

:WRS:          Hate to say it, but Eric was right, if the seller has misrepresented it the over the phone agreement is dead in my opinion.  Is the electric lift working?       

2 hours ago, Big_Red_Fred said:

engine running on turpentine,  & a List of more things,

You know the routine, replace the entire fuel system, rebuild the carb, new spark plugs and use Seafoam.

 

2 hours ago, Big_Red_Fred said:

Thanks for Letting me come back Karl, oh boy,

    Image result for watch your Ps and Qs

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Big_Red_Fred

Dont know if lift working @953 nut battery dead, 2 different spark plugs, what do twin kohlers run for spark ?

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953 nut

Champion RV 17YC is called for in the Kohler engine manual.

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4 hours ago, stevasaurus said:

Welcome back Big_Red.  :occasion-xmas:  I still hope you are planning on going to the Big Show.  :handgestures-thumbupright:  How is the engine on that horse??

2 different spark plugs, fuel lines hard as rock, gas turpentine 0310181120_HDR.jpg.af951be65d623c545edaec0e84fc0ff4.jpg

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pfrederi

Series II are good engines.  Only thing I have found is many came with Walbro fixed jet carbs they seem to be more sensitive to dirt and require really really thorough cleaning...  ( I replaced one on a C175 with an adjustable Kohler carb as I could never get her to run really well. 

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The Gman

Put a 17 II I rebuilt  in my 312-8, love it. I did change out the oil sentry switch for an electric oil guage.

Do not like the champion rv plugs. Data sheet calls for resistence value of 6k - 15k. Mine were both over 180k and built up carbon overnite. :(. Went thru. a bunch of nos to find good ones. Still looking for non resistor replacements with the right heat range.

Wish I had a nice chrome housing with the heat tube like yours.

When you get to it....... what's the cylinder compressions?

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Big_Red_Fred

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Another side view0310181118_HDR.jpg.fc1091a6f9d2bc8b7c937a68e0c9e245.jpg

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2 hours ago, The Gman said:

Put a 17 II I rebuilt  in my 312-8, love it. I did change out the oil sentry switch for an electric oil guage.

Do not like the champion rv plugs. Data sheet calls for resistence value of 6k - 15k. Mine were both over 180k and built up carbon overnite. :(. Went thru. a bunch of nos to find good ones. Still looking for non resistor replacements with the right heat range.

Wish I had a nice chrome housing with the heat tube like yours.

When you get to it....... what's the cylinder compressions?

I will grab my tester at work Monday & check compressions & post gauge for each

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Big_Red_Fred

My Goal is to get it running in tip top shape, will be my primary mower & i want to purchase a Leaf bagger, either that rectangular metal can that some how bolts to back or a straight up bagger. I'm starting my Collection now, Farmer Alex has enuf, SK486 on menu next . I want all big blocks over 14hp. Dont have a Garage so ill use a enclosed trailer for now

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WVHillbilly520H

Welcome back BFR, it looks pretty good compared to my rat rod project, Jeff.

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16 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

Welcome back BFR, it looks pretty good compared to my rat rod project, Jeff.

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Hit my pocket good, Oh thanks for welcoming me back, gets lonely on my own site hahahaha, waiting on a check, then were gonna need your buddys address, yes your going along , also get ready to help the old bird

 

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c-series don

I've always wanted a 417-8 or 418-8 for rototilling. The gear driven transmission for steady ground speed and electric lift for easy lift of the tiller. I'm sure with a little love it will love you back Fred!!  

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22 minutes ago, c-series don said:

I've always wanted a 417-8 or 418-8 for rototilling. The gear driven transmission for steady ground speed and electric lift for easy lift of the tiller. I'm sure with a little love it will love you back Fred!!  

What kind of lift does it require to work a Tiller Don, you know i didnt even look for a cable, im heading out now

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1 hour ago, c-series don said:

I've always wanted a 417-8 or 418-8 for rototilling. The gear driven transmission for steady ground speed and electric lift for easy lift of the tiller. I'm sure with a little love it will love you back Fred!!  

I'll have it At Big Show Don, Waxed & Sparkling with Forsale Sign on it , Its too clean to use

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c-series don

The lift cable with a hydrostatic transmission can go from the rockshaft directly to the tiller. It will eventually wear a groove in the seat mounting plate that bolts to the transmission. There is a rockshaft that goes under the seat/fuel tank area that was optional which I feel would have been helpful for a manual lift. I'm not exactly sure how the electric lift will work with a direct cable. Fred, please do not bring that tractor all spiffed up to the show with a for sale sign on it. I promised my wife I would not buy anymore tractors( I had my fingers crossed when I said that so that cancelled that out!!!) I have a 417-A that I was fortunate enough to inherit. So they would look nice together.  Geeze I even have an extra 36" tiller I could put on that tractor!! However I no longer have a garden to rototill so I don't need it. Then again I don't have anything to sicklebar mow either or spike tooth harrow or moldboard plow. Wait a minute, why do I even have all these things? 😳😜

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7 hours ago, c-series don said:

The lift cable with a hydrostatic transmission can go from the rockshaft directly to the tiller. It will eventually wear a groove in the seat mounting plate that bolts to the transmission. There is a rockshaft that goes under the seat/fuel tank area that was optional which I feel would have been helpful for a manual lift. I'm not exactly sure how the electric lift will work with a direct cable. Fred, please do not bring that tractor all spiffed up to the show with a for sale sign on it. I promised my wife I would not buy anymore tractors( I had my fingers crossed when I said that so that cancelled that out!!!) I have a 417-A that I was fortunate enough to inherit. So they would look nice together.  Geeze I even have an extra 36" tiller I could put on that tractor!! However I no longer have a garden to rototill so I don't need it. Then again I don't have anything to sicklebar mow either or spike tooth harrow or moldboard plow. Wait a minute, why do I even have all these things? 😳😜

You guys turned me into a Collector hahahaha, the 417-8 will be talking to you saying Ride Me Don, My Gut hangs out to far, i need a D series LOL

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Big_Red_Fred

No Cable, Elcamino wheel horse said rear cable was a option for that, once i get it running, i will pull off trailer & remove Mint Deck hahaha a teaser, i do have a New style Rock Shaft with a chain, found it in a Bucket

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elcamino/wheelhorse

Has anyone noticed BRF has been bring my name up , the next thing I will be in more trouble.

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1 minute ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said:

Has anyone noticed BRF has been bring my name up , the next thing I will be in more trouble.

Dang Tootin Brother hahaha

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