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I just wanted to share with everyone that I was able to replace the original bearing that was 3/4" ID  and 2" OD with one from Tractor Supply. The only thing I had to do was locate a replacement housing for the bearing, which happened to be located right next to the bearing. The holes line right up with the existing and the total cost was $20.The bearing was almost impossible to locate since I didn't want to spend $70+ for the wheel horse branded one. Part numbers are 11-95125(bearing) and 11-98409(housing). See the attached pictures for more information. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. The bearing being replaced was the upper on on the shaft that runs the chain.

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squonk

Those bearings are common to any Napa or Ag eq. store. The trick is having the Brg. number and not the Toro number. I find TSC always seem to have all of it in stock including the sprockets. The problem is they stock 1 in the store and you need 2.

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USHorse

That is good to know.  I have the need for one right now.  I am not sure if the shaft on my blower is 3/4".  I feel there wheelhorse had another shaft size.

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On 1/26/2018 at 4:35 PM, squonk said:

Those bearings are common to any Napa or Ag eq. store. The trick is having the Brg. number and not the Toro number. I find TSC always seem to have all of it in stock including the sprockets. The problem is they stock 1 in the store and you need 2.

Fortunately I have 3 tractor supply stored within 50 miles of me so I usually don't have an issue locating them. Napa couldn't get these bearings supposedly because they didn't have access to the correct size, but I have little to no faith in the NAPA around here.

On 1/27/2018 at 12:40 PM, USHorse said:

That is good to know. I have the need for one right now. I am not sure if the shaft on my blower is 3/4". I feel there wheelhorse had another shaft size.

You can just measure the shaft easily with a tape measure. I was not able to use the existing bearing because the shaft wrecked it because I did  not catch it when the bearing started blowing out. Luckily Tractor Supply has a no issue return policy here so I just had to make a few stops to get it figured out.

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squonk

I worked at Napa for 10 years. They have access to those bearings. They probably looked on their computer and not in their bearing book if they still even have one. My store was tossing all the books when I was there and I saved a lot of them knowing they would get lazy. The "If I can't find it on the screen it doesn't exist" mentality is inflicting many of the parts stores now, along with hiring flunky's to work the counter for cheap help.

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Sarge

You got that right - when I go to either of the stores I use locally , I just go right behind the counter and head for the stash of books. It always catches the FNG off guard when they hire a new one, but the rest leave me alone until I have the numbers I want and make an order on my account - they never argue , either. The last time O-Reilly's "upgraded" their system the team that does the work threw the books away - the local manager caught it right before they emptied the dumpster and got the books back inside, holding up the driver for a bit but he understood their importance. I have several of their outdated ones here - they give me any extras so I can look up what I need here, then just call with the part numbers. They know better than to ask for an application - I rarely touch anything that any of their reference material would ever cover and many things are custom on top of that. I'm down to 2 really well experienced guys I can count on that know what the difference is in stuff like early vs later style Ford solenoids, Chevy generator brushes and stuff like that - when they are gone I'm quitting...

 

These days you can't even search Google for decent answers on direct applications nor direct part numbers - without 4 pages of sponsored bs that doesn't even apply. Spent an hour today trying to research low-height hydraulic fittings - what a joke.

 

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R. L. Addison

Yup,yup, yup, the day of dedicated, nonprofessional, digital, noncaring, and make me rich know-nothings is here. I started buying parts in the mid fifties and there was one set of books lined up across the sales counter, maybe six feet or more long. Someone in that organization, (at least one) knew every one of those books, and EVERYONE was familiar with most. They had at least one part in stock for about anything that was needed and a machine shop in the back that a person could depend on for about any machine work that be needed/imagined.                      Or am I the only one lucky enough to have had that privilege?          Ron                                     

 

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Sarge

I'm not quite that old, but do remember the days of the real parts counters - and the staff that knew those parts like the back of their hand. Those guys worked there as a lifetime job and made good money. Corporate driven parts chains are not driven towards that business model - they want someone to run the computer, keep the place clean and withstand being paid a lower wage for more profits. It's the way things are done as a whole picture. Even Napa-owned stores have gone this route - the local one they just built has a huge inventory and nearly no business due to 2 other local stores that still have old-school techs behind the counter and they are well known for their knowledge. We lost one of the best guys we've ever had at the local Car Quest when Advanced Auto bought the chain - he went to a local Ag business to become a manager for their fleet - that made almost every mechanic in the area angry as he was one of the best around that had trained under the last of the older generation that was so good at what they did. There are 2 like that left - one at Advanced Auto that is still a very good paint specialist (he's 68) and one old-school hot rodder that works for O-Reilly's. Both are good friends of mine and have made arrangements with whatever new manager they get for me to have my accounts and access to their books. O'Reilly's last change resulted in losing a lot of accounts since they wanted those books gone - my buddy had saved them and keeps them in the back storage room and gives us older guys access without question. The Corporate people hate that , but they've learned that if they fire the guy their business will go with him - just like it did years ago. Mechanics used to follow certain counter guys when they changed jobs to a competing store system, rare these days and it's too bad. There are a few younger guys that are really good and understand how to work with the older wrench monkeys - they get tracked down when those guys come in the door as they have zero tolerance for the idiot that wants to pluck that keyboard and waste their time.

 

I'm sort of glad I'm at the age where I'm getting out of turning wrenches - I don't work in the shops during the off season anymore - it's probably a good thing given my temper and short fuse for stupidity these days. I hate to admit it - but feels like I'm turning into my foul-tempered father as he got older, you just get tired of dealing with fools. One driver now today is these kids do not grow up like we did - spending time with Dad and others learning how to fix stuff and taking care of our own machines , whatever they were. Most kids now can't hardly handle putting fuel in a car and certainly don't belong behind the counter of a parts store. My daughter is more educated than most of those idiots - and she's not afraid to tell them what they should already know as well, lol.

 

Getting back to the original issue - did you figure out this bearing/bushing problem ??

 

Sarge

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2 hours ago, Sarge said:

I'm not quite that old, but do remember the days of the real parts counters - and the staff that knew those parts like the back of their hand. Those guys worked there as a lifetime job and made good money. Corporate driven parts chains are not driven towards that business model - they want someone to run the computer, keep the place clean and withstand being paid a lower wage for more profits. It's the way things are done as a whole picture. Even Napa-owned stores have gone this route - the local one they just built has a huge inventory and nearly no business due to 2 other local stores that still have old-school techs behind the counter and they are well known for their knowledge. We lost one of the best guys we've ever had at the local Car Quest when Advanced Auto bought the chain - he went to a local Ag business to become a manager for their fleet - that made almost every mechanic in the area angry as he was one of the best around that had trained under the last of the older generation that was so good at what they did. There are 2 like that left - one at Advanced Auto that is still a very good paint specialist (he's 68) and one old-school hot rodder that works for O-Reilly's. Both are good friends of mine and have made arrangements with whatever new manager they get for me to have my accounts and access to their books. O'Reilly's last change resulted in losing a lot of accounts since they wanted those books gone - my buddy had saved them and keeps them in the back storage room and gives us older guys access without question. The Corporate people hate that , but they've learned that if they fire the guy their business will go with him - just like it did years ago. Mechanics used to follow certain counter guys when they changed jobs to a competing store system, rare these days and it's too bad. There are a few younger guys that are really good and understand how to work with the older wrench monkeys - they get tracked down when those guys come in the door as they have zero tolerance for the idiot that wants to pluck that keyboard and waste their time.

 

I'm sort of glad I'm at the age where I'm getting out of turning wrenches - I don't work in the shops during the off season anymore - it's probably a good thing given my temper and short fuse for stupidity these days. I hate to admit it - but feels like I'm turning into my foul-tempered father as he got older, you just get tired of dealing with fools. One driver now today is these kids do not grow up like we did - spending time with Dad and others learning how to fix stuff and taking care of our own machines , whatever they were. Most kids now can't hardly handle putting fuel in a car and certainly don't belong behind the counter of a parts store. My daughter is more educated than most of those idiots - and she's not afraid to tell them what they should already know as well, lol.

 

Getting back to the original issue - did you figure out this bearing/bushing problem ??

 

Sarge

I am all set now unless you were not talking to me. The new housing fit really close. The nuts had to be threaded on to allow the hosing past the bolts because it was so tight. Tried snow blowing the banks with no issue yet. 

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Sarge

Great - we got off subject with the frustration of how things have changed in the world - it's an old people thing, lol. Glad to hear you got it fixed and back in service - it's nice to put that snow where you want it and not have to make so many passes with a blade.

 

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11 hours ago, Sarge said:

Great - we got off subject with the frustration of how things have changed in the world - it's an old people thing, lol. Glad to hear you got it fixed and back in service - it's nice to put that snow where you want it and not have to make so many passes with a blade.

 

Sarge

But I do enjoy hitting snow as hard as I can and talking trash to it while on the Automatic 10. lol I cannot be the only one who does that.

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WHX??

Nope yer not the only one Jgoodsell.... my wife don't get it when I am talking to myself (loud) while attacking snow... :lol:

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Jgoodsell

Well, that makes me feel a bit better. Sometimes I get a little too angry at it and start flipping it off before I run it over. I may have issues. But, god does it feel better once I push that filthy white crap into a pile on the neighbors lawn.....

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WHX??

Well just be carefull of that pile of bricks the neighbor placed! :lol:

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5 minutes ago, WHX14 said:

Well just be carefull of that pile of bricks the neighbor placed! :lol:

Oh, well I will just push them too

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Sarge

Hmm, guess I'm in like company - I've been known to hurl dog turds with the blower into the neighboring property - just as a point ...lol. You'd be amazed at how far they fly with a single stage - a 2 stage unit might result in broken parts or broken windows though - so don't be in a rush to try it , lol.

Sadistic, yeah - I know....I'll shut up now.

 

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