classicdmax 190 #1 Posted January 18, 2018 Looking to confirm plug type and gap for k341....also seems to me that most people prefer ngk over champion? Any input on plug preference? thanks fellas j- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,125 #2 Posted January 18, 2018 Anything but Champion for me 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,025 #3 Posted January 19, 2018 What Paul said. Not a lot of luck with Champions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520HC 207 #4 Posted January 19, 2018 Been using champions for 40 years 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classicdmax 190 #5 Posted January 19, 2018 Maybe I’m not doing a proper internet search here, I’m finding ngk b6l but feel there should be something more to the number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skrusins 128 #6 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I use Autolight 216 for most Kohlers. Sold hundreds when I had my business. I use NGK for the Asian motors Edited January 19, 2018 by skrusins added number 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,478 #7 Posted January 19, 2018 http://www.ngksparkplugs.ca/results-smallengine.cfm?model=empty&enginesize=16.0+hp&make=KOHLER&apptype=Power+Equipment+Engines&subapplication=K+Series Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classicdmax 190 #8 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Ha, great thanks. I guess I could have gone to their website too Edited January 19, 2018 by classicdmax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,952 #9 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, pfrederi said: Anything but Champion for me 52 minutes ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said: What Paul said. Not a lot of luck with Champions 44 minutes ago, 520HC said: Been using champions for 40 years Here's where I'm at... I hadn't touched a Champion for about 25 years unless I was tossing in the trash. BUT !! I know A LOT of folks prefer them sooooo I gave them another try this year. I have to admit I've been impressed so far. Kohler, B & S both seem to run well with them in. ALL brands of plugs NEED to be changed out at the proper time interval. The way I understand the reason Folks don't like Champs is that the company tried to go cheap back in the 80s and failed miserably doing so. Some engines still really ran well but many others did not. Tough to sell a product when a large portion of the target market thinks poorly of that item. I've run a few Autolites, mostly AC Delco. Some NGK. If the Champions go well for a year or so I'll keep using them. If not I'll go back to putting Autolites in small engines. Make SURE the heat range is right and change 'em out when you should (or earlier) and I think Most name brands are fine. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,125 #10 Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Here's where I'm at... I hadn't touched a Champion for about 25 years unless I was tossing in the trash. BUT !! I know A LOT of folks prefer them sooooo I gave them another try this year. I have to admit I've been impressed so far. Kohler, B & S both seem to run well with them in. ALL brands of plugs NEED to be changed out at the proper time interval. The way I understand the reason Folks don't like Champs is that the company tried to go cheap back in the 80s and failed miserably doing so. Some engines still really ran well but many others did not. Tough to sell a product when a large portion of the target market thinks poorly of that item. I've run a few Autolites, mostly AC Delco. Some NGK. If the Champions go well for a year or so I'll keep using them. If not I'll go back to putting Autolites in small engines. Make SURE the heat range is right and change 'em out when you should (or earlier) and I think Most name brands are fine. I have heard that they have improved ...BUT you cause me problems once I am not in a mood for second chances... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,981 #11 Posted January 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, pfrederi said: I have heard that they have improved ...BUT you cause me problems once I am not in a mood for second chances... That's what my x said... 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,952 #12 Posted January 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, pfrederi said: I have heard that they have improved ...BUT you cause me problems once I am not in a mood for second chances... I'll give ya that one Paul. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classicdmax 190 #13 Posted January 19, 2018 So perhaps a dumb question, does gapping remain the same regardless of spark plug brand used? Just askin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,952 #14 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, classicdmax said: So perhaps a dumb question, does gapping remain the same regardless of spark plug brand used? Just askin... Yep. Plug gap is a specification set by the engine manufacturer. Edited January 19, 2018 by ebinmaine 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,495 #15 Posted January 19, 2018 Manual calls for Champion H-10 gaped at .035 for battery ignition and .025 for Magneto ignition. What you use is up to you, but use the plug manufacturer application chart rather than a cross reference. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #16 Posted January 19, 2018 8 hours ago, ebinmaine said: ALL brands of plugs NEED to be changed out at the proper time interval. My 2003 Chevrolet Z-71 has 201,000 + miles on the factory spark plugs....wonder what the life of these plugs are! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 38,844 #17 Posted January 19, 2018 Auto-Rites! 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hondagod64 81 #18 Posted January 19, 2018 NGK plugs!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,952 #19 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, KC9KAS said: My 2003 Chevrolet Z-71 has 201,000 + miles on the factory spark plugs....wonder what the life of these plugs are! Hopefully. .. whenever you stop using the truck. .. plus 1 mile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaySide1 137 #20 Posted January 19, 2018 I have found that NGK plugs burn a bit hotter than Champions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,686 #21 Posted January 19, 2018 So if I am following this thread right a Champ H-10 = NGK B6L = an Autolite 216? One of the biggest issues I always have in getting away from Champions is finding the proper cross reference. I have seen a few Kohlers come through with an Autolite 216 in it. Are those the go to plug for our 7 -14 hp Kohlers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,369 #22 Posted January 19, 2018 4 hours ago, KC9KAS said: My 2003 Chevrolet Z-71 has 201,000 + miles on the factory spark plugs....wonder what the life of these plugs are! Factory says 100k change intervals, they are "fine wire" iridium tipped but IMHO with the coil per plug set-up they last longer that the old distributor single coil set-up I've changed plugs out at 150k+ that still looked decent but with the new ones installed better fuel mileage,starting,idling and throttle response, BTW is cheaper to buy a set from RockAuto than local parts store, like $35 vs $60 for a V8 , Jeff. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 62,952 #23 Posted January 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, WHX14 said: So if I am following this thread right a Champ H-10 = NGK B6L = an Autolite 216? One of the biggest issues I always have in getting away from Champions is finding the proper cross reference. I have seen a few Kohlers come through with an Autolite 216 in it. Are those the go to plug for our 7 -14 hp Kohlers? I can't vouch for the entire model range of the late 50s into the 2000s. I do believe that in the middle 1970s where my tractors are, up to eight horse is j8c. 10 horse to 16 horse is h10c. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,125 #24 Posted January 19, 2018 216 Autolite for 10-16Hp K singles. 8hp are different (295) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOB ELLISON 2,976 #25 Posted January 19, 2018 I have used the 216 autolite in my C160 for 2 years with no trouble. It starts great so they work fine for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
