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Commando 800. 5085 trans problem

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I am based in the UK and have a 1-0120 Commando 800 with a transmission problem. I have used this machine regularly for the last 28 years for grass cutting and have noticed that there is now significant backlash in the driveline, particularly noticeable when the slope of the ground changes. I guess that I will have to split the trans but I am rather concerned about what I will find. Has anyone else had this issue?

 

Many thanks for your help.

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Before you split the transmission look at your key ways / hubs on your axels- they could be worn badly 

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Well done! A spot on diagnosis! I have pulled both hubs and both keys are wrecked as are the slots in the shafts but the hubs look fine. Any suggestions for a fix would be very much appreciated!

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A new set of keys and an addition of a second set screw 90 degrees from the original set screw (if your hubs don't already have a second set screw) will buy you some time. Eventually you will probably need to repair or replace the axles. I have removed the axles, welded the original key way shut, and cut a new full length key way in some of my axles. I realize not every one has this ability, but a machine shop should be able to do this for you if you take them your axles.IMG_20170809_190938604.jpg.62d8060036d9181250f11da9c99224d1.jpg

 

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Many thanks to you all for taking the time to give me your thoughts/solutions. I think I will pull the transmission, extract the shafts and take then to a friend who has more skill than me and also has a Bridgeport mill. The idea of welding up the damage and re-cutting new slots sounds like a good long term proper engineering solution which will see me out!

 

Once again thank you from the UK

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Here is a link to rebuilding a 5085 transmission...with videos, that should help you get her done.  :)

 

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Many thanks for the videos/photos which will make my life much easier once I manage to get the b*****d hitch pin out!

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There are many threads and opinions on here regarding hitch pin removal.  My most successful  and easiest is to cut the pin off on both sides of the transmission with a 4.5" X1/16" grinder wheel.   Then put the hitch in a press to remove the two pieces of pin.  The piece in the transmission may have to be drilled out.

 

                           GOOD LUCK

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The problem is that the pin is stuck in the casing. I have cut the hitch off but the pin is well and truly "welded" in place. I have read most of the threads about removal and am about to try the candle wax approach. Drilling it out sounds like a long job!

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I have had some success by drilling a 1/8" hole thru each half of the casing lug into the pin to inject penetrant.   Then tap the two holes for a zerk fitting for future lubrication.

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Got it out!!! Phew that was tough. I drilled into the casing lugs and injected some Wurth Rost Off and left it overnight. This morning I hit it with a drift, quite hard I may say, but it didn't move. Then I tried some heat and got a little movement. Then I tried the candle wax idea and a much bigger hammer, well actually a large wood axe, and more heat and it started to go when hit VERY HARD. The box is now apart and not in bad condition at all. I am going to take the shafts to my friend with the mill and see what we can achieve. It is very satisfying to be making progress, thanks mainly to the help offered here which is very much appreciated.

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