1987 Wheel Horse

[drewd 55]

I am considering buying a 1987 416-8 and would like to check it out this weekend.  It's a hour drive for me and wanted to check with the group if there are any know issues with a 1987 416-8?  Good reputation or Bad?  Owner mentioned it needs a new starter.  Otherwise used it until this Spring.  Does come with a plow, grader blade, 42" deck and cart for 750.  Any thoughts appreciated!

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,488]

1987 416-8 has a single cylinder M16 Kohler engine. Posting this because I can never remember when they used a twin cylinder Onan and sure others do the same.

I would prefer to have the Kohler.

Garry

[Ed Kennell 35,626]

I am not aware of any inherent problems with the M engines although I prefer the Ks and the 8 speeds are nearly bullet proof.

It is impossible to evaluate a unit w/o pictures,  but if I could not see it run and drive, I would be very cautious.  

It does have some nice implements if they are in good condition.

plow/ dozer sell for $120 $150

Grader $ 200

42" deck  $250

Wheel horse cart   $150

 

May be an OK deal, but I have a problem paying $750 for a non-runner.

[OHRob72 88]

I have an 85 and an 88 416-8 and I love both of these machines. The 87 will have the Kohler Magnum engine...I believe the Onan was first installed in 89. I prefer the Kohlers as well. These are strong and reliable machines. I have had no major issues with either 416. I've only had to deal with some relatively simple electrical issues relating to loose wires and a bad safety switch. Otherwise just routine maintenance. I would buy it at that price with those attachments...doesn't hurt to haggle down the price though. I think the attachments are worth nearly what he is asking for.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,337]

I have a '88 416-8, which has the M16 Kohler.  It has over 3600 hours on this machine, and it still runs good.  The M16 Kohlers are great engines, and as mentioned, the 8 speed transmissions are bullet proof.

[drewd 55]

Thank you guys!  I'll let you know once I've checked it out.

[PeacemakerJack 10,670]

Drewd--GhostRider is a 314-8 and I love it!  It is smooth running and is a powerful torquey machine.  

That 416 is like a bigger engined brother.  The guys on here recommended that I buy it some years ago and I don't regret it!  With all those attachments, I don't think you can go wrong, unless it doesn't run.  Then you need to give it some thought. Sometimes it is a simple fix. Other times, an expensive and challenging problem.  Good luck, and remember 

 

Edited August 27, 2017 by PeacemakerJack

[Ed Kennell 35,626]

      Did you buy it?   

[drewd 55]

Yes I did!  The tractor has some issues for sure.  The 42" deck is solid with free movement and decent blades. The belt covers are not great but the important bits are good.  Cannot read the deck tag as it has been painted and partially torn.   Both the grader blade and plow/dozer are in quite good shape.  I did not take the trailer as it was a small aftermarket one in not so good shape and would have had trouble loading all pieces.  The price ended up at 550.00 so felt I could take the gamble on the tractor. The wheels are really rotted but all rims looked great as well as front tie rods.  Seat is nice so think it was replaced as it looks like the tractor had lots of time out in the elements.  First job is to check out the starter and engine (engine looks good but we shall see!.  Worse case is I have some great parts!!!

 

PS: The hand written info I got with it has it's number as 05-422201  02 or 05-42SS01  02.  Does this make sense to anyone?  I would like to download a manual and parts list.

 

Thanks!

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,488]

There is a 05-42SS01 and 05-42SS02 but it fits the 244-5 and 244-H lawn tractors with a vertical engine crankshaft.

There is 05-42MS01 and 05-42MS02 42" width of cut side discharge decks that fit an older version of your tractor.

You can download the file from here but also click on these lines for more info

Mower Rotary 42in SD 1980 05-42MS01 OM IPL SN.pdf

Mower Rotary 42in SD 1981-1983 05-42MS02 OM TIPL SN.pdf

 

Garry

[drewd 55]

Thanks gwest!  The mower is very much like the C-series in the download.  I'll know more as I pull it apart.  Thanks all!

[Ed Kennell 35,626]

        

[drewd 55]

Here are two pictures of the mower. What model number do you think it may be?  It looks the C series that Garry sent but just want to double check so I have the closes download possible to work on it.  The deck is sold just really dirty. The oil is where I hit all the bolts to begin the process.  The belt shields are not great as there were only 1 or 2 screws on each and cracked from rattling around.  Otherwise, I think it will clean up well. 

 

Thanks, Drew

[Retired Wrencher 4,874]

 drewd  I would go by what T-mo said  his family was  selling these fine tractor for years so they know. Just my