no spark

[lercher 1]

Hello . new to this but bare with me . we got a radier 10 6speed believe it's a 10hp.  It ran great when we picked it up but the ignition switch was going . we put two tsc ones on n the both burnd out . so I got the right switch and it cranks just fine but now no spark could I have messed something up with the other two switches .got juice to the voltage regulator . but when it cranks it goes out . could the regulator be bad . thanks

[Ed Kennell 35,604]

This may help.

[pfrederi 17,128]

It is possible your switch fried the magneto or if you have a breakerless system fried it.  What is teh spec number for your engine? 

 

Edit;

 

Depending on the year you may have a Kohler or a Techumseh   Need more info.  Model # of tractor ans Spec Number of engine if Kohler.  if it was a Techumseh and you used a battery ignition switch there is a good chance it killed it. sorry

Edited May 5, 2017 by pfrederi

[lercher 1]

Okay I'll find out tonight when I'm home

 

[pfrederi 17,128]

Good news if it is an original Kohler it should be a battery ignition system.  That would not be harmed by the wrong switch.

[lercher 1]

I'm like 95 % sure it is but I'll find out for sure

 

[953 nut 51,511]

      We will get it up and running, just need a bit more info.

[lercher 1]

 Model # mm100-115145b

Serial 9162. 08048

 

Can't tell if it's mm or nn but that's what I got off engine cover . fly wheel side

[oldredrider 2,547]

Probably "HH". Techumseh 10hp.

[lercher 1]

So good chance the i messed the magneto up and that's not fixable ?

 

 

[oldredrider 2,547]

If the mag is fried, it's expensive to replace... $200.

[lercher 1]

Okay want else could be the problem I got one wire that goes to the regulator n two that come out to the engine . I'm not getting juice from that when cranking

 

[953 nut 51,511]

Take a look at this manual. I don't own any Tecumseh engines, but know that some had points and condenser under the flywheel. If you have points it can be converted to a "Battery Ignition" system using a coil with an internal ballast resistor. Take a look at the manual and compare it to your engine so we can narrow down the possibilities.

 

[lercher 1]

Okay I will when I get a chance . it has a spark plug wire and ignition control all in one piece. The ignition mounts right above the fly wheel. On the cover it says soild state ignition system if that helps

[pfrederi 17,128]

The wires from the engine to the regulator are not involved in the ignition system.  They are  for charging the battery. The regulator itself has nothing to do with spark.

 

Do you have a $4 spark plug tester as from harbor freight??  if not pull the plug lay it on the block and crank the engine...any sign of spark?? 

 

If not i am afraid you used a battery ignition switch (did it have an "I" terminal on it??  or an "M" terminal)  if you did the Solid State ignition is most likely toasted. Searching on line there are some ways to replace the ignition system...for a price.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,478]

Should be an early 1970 tractor model 1-6051.

 

Garry

[wildman 205]

TSC switch won't work in your horse

[lercher 1]

Okay guys so the problem is the magneto thing behind the fly wheel . So my question now is . Is there any Kohler I can easily replace with

 

[pfrederi 17,128]

Just about any K series 8-16HP.  But make sure it is a Spec number used for Wheel Horses as You need a fairly long Crankshaft on the PTO side of the motor.  If not a WH spec measure your current crankshaft and make sure the replacement engine crank is at least as long.

 

Used replacements for your SS Mag are available, also if you search there are plans for replacing it with a battery coil system.

 

Where in PA are you?  If you decide to replace it I might be interested in buying it.

[lercher 1]

Okay I would like to fix what's there but I'm not have much luck finding parts . And I'm still kicking the idea around in my head about going battery coil system . But around Lebanon county 

[pfrederi 17,128]

2 hours ago, lercher said:

Okay I would like to fix what's there but I'm not have much luck finding parts . And I'm still kicking the idea around in my head about going battery coil system . But around Lebanon county 

Here is an alternative

 

http://overnight-solutions.com/index_files/Page682.htm

[6bg6ga 271]

There is another way to skin a cat if your game. You can easily use a trigger (Hall Effect Switch) to run your ignition.  There are even inexpensive kits out there or one can make up something to work. Ignition on any of these tiny engines is very primitive.

 

I put together a rough idea on how one can make their own electronic ignition  in my B43E engine post.  If you want help or would like to develop a DIY ignition system why not start another thread and maybe we can have some kind of sticky if you guys have that sort of thing on this forum.

[lercher 1]

If i.knew where to start I would be game. But I think I'm gonna look into that over night solution

[953 nut 51,511]

10 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Here is an alternative

 

http://overnight-solutions.com/index_files/Page682.htm

That is a great product, and it will probably work with the TS switch that he already bought.

[6bg6ga 271]

37 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

That is a great product, and it will probably work with the TS switch that he already bought.

 

 

I'm sure its a great product. I would have thought some of the brains on this forum would have come up with something as good for a fraction of the price.