HY-2 hydraulic help

[whtractors24 2,898]

I am looking into a machine with HY-2 kit . The return spring is currently broken . Is anyone remaking these or have any? 

 

Also it does seap from the right side I'm assuming either the o ring either on the shaft where the handle connects to or the pulley . I know the o rings are all discontinued any ideas on sizes ?

 

thanks for the help in advance. 

[953 nut 51,381]

The spring for the HY-2 is part #4837 and can be purchased from JC's Farm and Garden Supply (219) 229-4708. The "O" rings should all be standard industrial supply items available at NAPA or any good industrial supply house.

[AMC RULES 36,940]

Norms toys used to have the spring too. 

Edited December 27, 2015 by AMC RULES

[Lane Ranger 10,472]

Norm Steinman sold his business.  But you can contact and the new owner is suppyling some of the HY 2 spings.   They are remade to order but work sjust like original.

 

 

 

953Nut tells me this is the new name and owner's telephone number.   JC's Farm and Garden Supply. (219-299-4708)    Give John a call.

 

 

I sell the  Oil Seal for the 1/2  shaft that the drive pulley runs on.   It goes around the shaft under the pulley.   You can email me at  laneranger104@gmai.com if you are interested in an oil seal.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2015 by Lane Ranger

[whtractors24 2,898]

3 hours ago, Lane Ranger said:

Norm Steinman sold his business.  But you can contact and the new owner is suppyling some of the HY 2 spings.   They are remade to order but work sjust like original.

 

 

 

953Nut tells me this is the new name and owner's telephone number.   JC's Farm and Garden Supply. (219-299-4708)    Give John a call.

 

 

I sell the  Oil Seal for the 1/2  shaft that the drive pulley runs on.   It goes around the shaft under the pulley.   You can email me at  laneranger104@gmai.com if you are interested in an oil seal.

 

 

Great to know any idea on other seals ?

[Lane Ranger 10,472]

Stevasaurus made a list of oil seals for the transmissions which is listed on Red Square.

 

[stevasaurus 22,227]

I don't think that is going to help here Lane...but here is a link to a HY-2 rebuild from a few years ago that does have the O-ring sizes if you want to read through this.    There is a ton of information in this thread.  The O-Rings are standard sizes...it is the backer rings that may be tough to find.  Like Lane said...he has the input pulley seal.  I don't know if Indy is still selling parts or not (he became a vendor in the thread, but that was 6 years ago). 

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/12422-702-with-hydro-2/

[Phil854 130]

I found the O-rings and backer rings on Ebay all sold as a set for the cylinder they were for  a Bolens tractor but they use the same hydraulics pump and cylinder as  Wheel Horse

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151649994372?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT you get  3 big O-rings 1 small 0-ring and 2 backer rings for around 13.50

just rebuilt my pump and cylinder and they worked fine.

[whtractors24 2,898]

2 hours ago, stevasaurus said:

I don't think that is going to help here Lane...but here is a link to a HY-2 rebuild from a few years ago that does have the O-ring sizes if you want to read through this.    There is a ton of information in this thread.  The O-Rings are standard sizes...it is the backer rings that may be tough to find.  Like Lane said...he has the input pulley seal.  I don't know if Indy is still selling parts or not (he became a vendor in the thread, but that was 6 years ago). 

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/12422-702-with-hydro-2/

Thanks Steve I have buzzed through this seems very very helpful.

so lane ranger has the oil deal for behind the shaft with the pulley . Now 6 years later what do I do about the rest of the o rings think a hydraulic shop? 

[whtractors24 2,898]

This looks like all I need correct ? 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Cadet-Narrow-Frame-Hein-Werner-Hydraulic-Lift-Pump-Seal-Kit-2-0-/191726825058?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D603d326be2d5497f8b3728eb039348b6%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D3%2526rkt%253D4%2526sd%253D151690373302&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

[953 nut 51,381]

10 minutes ago, whtractors24 said:

This looks like all I need correct ? 

 

I may be wrong but it seems like you could find all of that stuff at NAPA for about a quarter of the price. Just bring in the old parts and let them match them.

[Lane Ranger 10,472]

The Cub Parts    whtractors24  posted are all needed for the  Hein Werner Hydraulic Pump used on several different tractor models.   The Cub Cadet guys have  had a better array of parts for sale for several years.  The big cannister seal is unavailable anywhere else.  The steel/rubber washer can be purchased  in Menards's or a good hardware store -I think it is convex in design to seal properly on the end of the hydraulic fluid cannister.    The price is really not bad for the kit and I was unaware anyone was selling the whole kit together.   That  metal ring that locks the pump pistion outside the cannister is also a difficult part to find new.   Thanks for posting this   whtractors24!

Edited December 29, 2015 by Lane Ranger

[whtractors24 2,898]

13 hours ago, Lane Ranger said:

The Cub Parts    whtractors24  posted are all needed for the  Hein Werner Hydraulic Pump used on several different tractor models.   The Cub Cadet guys have  had a better array of parts for sale for several years.  The big cannister seal is unavailable anywhere else.  The steel/rubber washer can be purchased  in Menards's or a good hardware store -I think it is convex in design to seal properly on the end of the hydraulic fluid cannister.    The price is really not bad for the kit and I was unaware anyone was selling the whole kit together.   That  metal ring that locks the pump pistion outside the cannister is also a difficult part to find new.   Thanks for posting this   whtractors24!

 

I spoke with the guy in the above seal kit on ebay and he told me he has used these for wheel horse hy2 no issue.. hmm

[whtractors24 2,898]

So the spring because it's broken will that allow the handle to travel freely very far forward and back ?

[953 nut 51,381]

With a broken spring you will have to manually return the lift handle to the center position.

[whtractors24 2,898]

Ok so I got it all apart there is no pieces nor any spring at all hmm .... 

 

Well ill I got the spring and all the parts on the way my question is the roll pin that goes through the center does the n spring go under that then press the roll pin back through to hold it in place ? 

 

[AMC RULES 36,940]

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/1859-lift-hydraulic-1962-1963-hy-2-a-7140pdf/

[whtractors24 2,898]

well I grew confidence spoke with indy wh a.k.a (mitchell) last night on the phone he walked me right through it seems to be a cake walk well see once I get parts if it leaks

[stevasaurus 22,227]

If someone has not told you yet...the answer to your roll pin question is "yes"...the spring goes under the roll pin and then the pin goes back in place. 

 

[whtractors24 2,898]

you guys have been a big help thank you!

so far I have it torn it down realized the spring is no longer is there

I have all the parts on the way and should be back together in no time !

 

I hope no leaks !

 

is 32oz of hydraulic fluid from dead empty sound correct >?

the new shaft seal is in!

Edited January 4, 2016 by whtractors24

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,474]

Vaseline is a good lubricant for seals and O-rings at assembly time. Helps the rubber slide into place reducing the chance of a nick or roll of the seal.

 

Garry

[whtractors24 2,898]

7 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

Vaseline is a good lubricant for seals and O-rings at assembly time. Helps the rubber slide into place reducing the chance of a nick or roll of the seal.

 

Garry

Thank you I did use it