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Nathanielperz

Hey guys the 1276 is almost ready for paint! I hope to get as much painting done as I can this weekend. My dad borrowed a paint sprayer from a guy at work and we have the paint but we don't know how much to thin it. It say 8fl oz per 1 gallon but my dad says it seems like to little. The thinner it says to use is VM&P Naphtha.

 

Here are a few pics of the can....

 

 

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Thanks in advance, Nate

 

 

 

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KC9KAS

That is 2 ounces per quart of paint (1 oz/pint) , and I think that is pretty close.

Some guys actually measure, and some just pour it in. I bet that will be pretty close.

 

You using a hardener in the mix?

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Nathanielperz

I  wasn't planning on using hardener.  (this is my first time hearing about it) Should I use it? What are the benefits?

 

Thanks, Nate

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Geno

I would use it unless you have a good environment for it to dry in for 3 days or so.   :) 

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redrooster

I would use hardner because you want a finish that will take some abuse. Other wise it take months to cure and you'll have to be very careful until it becomes hard. Ask me how I know[emoji15]

I would use hardner in it unless you have a good environment for it to dry in for 3 days or so. :)

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Nathanielperz

How do you know Red? Hahaha Where can I get this stuff?

 

Thanks, Nate

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Geno

O'Reilly's and Tractor Supply have it.

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varosd

And with any paint spraying and especially using hardener....use a real respirator mask.  Toxic with the big T.

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rmaynard

I personally would not paint with an alkyd paint such as Valspar without using a hardener. It enhances the gloss, quickens the drying time, and makes the entire paint job more durable.

 

I have a can of hardener listed on eBay at this time. Item #321525379229

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km3h

I must reiterate what was said before. If you use a hardener, make sure you use a good respirator. The hardener is very and I mean very toxic. Get yourself a paper suit with a paper head cover and make sure you wear eye goggles. If you ever go to a paint shop, that is what you will see the painter wearing while he is in the booth.

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Nathanielperz

My father talked to one of his friends and he said that the stuff is EXTREMELY toxic so we aren't gonna use it... Thank you all for the help

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Geno

Most all of the paint stuff is toxic.  Lacquer based would eat up your lungs over time also.  I have a friend (deceased) that was my age and coughed hard one day and his lungs exploded.  :eusa-doh:

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pacer

Many, many of us dont use hardener. Unless youre gonna make a trailer queen, and are gonna use it, its gonna get dings. Just allow as much drying time as you can allow (without getting impatient! like I tend to do...) It should dry to handle - if not damp and cold - in a couple days, enough to handle, but will ding easily.

 

That Valspar is what TSC carried forever and a bunch of here used it and loved it, If I could still get it, I'd probably go back to it....

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Hodge71

My father talked to one of his friends and he said that the stuff is EXTREMELY toxic so we aren't gonna use it... Thank you all for the help

Everything about painting is dangerous and toxic if you really want to examine it with a microscope. I wouldn't skip the hardener if your serious about your paint job and its durability...just my opinion and Im sure theres plenty on here that will call me a moron for it. I just think that if you're going to take the time to spray it with a gun..get hardener...if not, why waste the time and effort...... buy Krylon or Rustoleum and wait 2 months for it to dry

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Save Old Iron

over-simplified (but not by much)

 

hardener is superglue

superglue dries when it contacts moisture

your lungs are moist

 

spray guns atomize superglue into the air

you breath the air thru a respirator cartridge

there are no OSHA specified cartridges to filter cyanoac's

cartridge lets atomized superglue into your moist lungs where the superglue hardens

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km3h

Thing to think about is that if you can smell it you know it is getting into your body in some small amount. Any amount of hardener is hazardous to your well being. I have worn very expensive respirators and you can always smell the paint. They talk in parts per million about this type of hazard. That does not mean I won't use it sometime in the future though but not very often.

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