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myron in ct

I went to the Toro parts lookup and you can't lookup older WH tractors .

Is there some other place to look ?

Thanks Myron

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Kelly

only way I know is t post pictures and ask questions, unless it's a model with the metal tag them you can look up but pre 65 machines there is no site or data base for them

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gwest_ca

Myron,

 

What are you looking for and for what model?

 

Garry

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GlenPettit

Kohler engines were normally installed 2 or 3 months before the tractor was completed, and we can find the exact DAY of manufacture of that engine using that engine serial number  (charts available on the web from Kohler).

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myron in ct

I have two parts WH tractors I would like to know the years  ( ser. 29929 )  ( ser. 62-1741 ) .

Myron

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Kelly

post pictures serial no.s don't help

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Hodge71

SHeesh I got all happy...I thought there was a new Wheel Horse dating site with only girls that have Wheel Horses.....disappointed is an understatement....  :no:

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bowtieguy

Jeff...don't feel bad....I'm still lookin' how to date that model on page 73 (or page 103)...don't know her model number but someone called her Nora!!!...just sayin' :ychain:  :hide: ....huh?....did I highjack this thread!I

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Hammerhead

Well the 2nd one you mention is probably a 1962 Model# 702 with a early production date.

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gwest_ca

62-1825 is a 1962 502

62-1741 is yours

62-1712 is a 1962 552

 

29929 may be a 1963 with a slimmer chance of being a 1964

 

Garry

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stevasaurus

gwest...I am wondering if the Model/Serial numbers that start with 62-xxxx are all basically 1962's.  I think I have seen a thread where one guy had one that started with 62- that you guys said it could be a 1963.  The other thing I am thinking, is that a model/serial number that has 62-xxxx or 62-xxxxx could be either a 502 or a 552 or a 702 with no rhythm or reason.  In other words...is it possible that they just numbered the tractors as they came off the line in that year??  I have a 702...62-4216 and I had a 502...62-18107. 

 

To help clarify what I am thinking...if they did 702's on Monday and numbered them 1 to 10...then they did 502's on Tuesday and numbered them 11 to 20...the they did 552's on Wednesday and numbered them 21 to 30...and then there was on order they stuck in the middle and just continued the numerical system...ie...a 702 could be built on Wednesday and it was the 5th tractor that day...hence 62-25.  What do you think??? :eusa-think:   I am just wondering if that is what they may have done in 1962. :)

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octfst

gwest...I am wondering if the Model/Serial numbers that start with 62-xxxx are all basically 1962's.  I think I have seen a thread where one guy had one that started with 62- that you guys said it could be a 1963.  The other thing I am thinking, is that a model/serial number that has 62-xxxx or 62-xxxxx could be either a 502 or a 552 or a 702 with no rhythm or reason.  In other words...is it possible that they just numbered the tractors as they came off the line in that year??  I have a 702...62-4216 and I had a 502...62-18107. 

 

To help clarify what I am thinking...if they did 702's on Monday and numbered them 1 to 10...then they did 502's on Tuesday and numbered them 11 to 20...the they did 552's on Wednesday and numbered them 21 to 30...and then there was on order they stuck in the middle and just continued the numerical system...ie...a 702 could be built on Wednesday and it was the 5th tractor that day...hence 62-25.  What do you think??? :eusa-think:   I am just wondering if that is what they may have done in 1962. :)

I have 5 753s & a 603 they all start with 62-

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myron in ct

I  am sorry but wen your 84 you do screw things up .

If you don't believe me just wait .

Myron

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64s

Myron,  You didn't screw anything up, just asked a question, and this post went a bit off course. Either post pictures, or if you have engines on them, then model numbers and spec numbers will narrow down a date.

 

I am far from an expert, but I'm only a couple of miles away if you need help.

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gwest_ca

gwest...I am wondering if the Model/Serial numbers that start with 62-xxxx are all basically 1962's.  I think I have seen a thread where one guy had one that started with 62- that you guys said it could be a 1963.  The other thing I am thinking, is that a model/serial number that has 62-xxxx or 62-xxxxx could be either a 502 or a 552 or a 702 with no rhythm or reason.  In other words...is it possible that they just numbered the tractors as they came off the line in that year??  I have a 702...62-4216 and I had a 502...62-18107. 

 

To help clarify what I am thinking...if they did 702's on Monday and numbered them 1 to 10...then they did 502's on Tuesday and numbered them 11 to 20...the they did 552's on Wednesday and numbered them 21 to 30...and then there was on order they stuck in the middle and just continued the numerical system...ie...a 702 could be built on Wednesday and it was the 5th tractor that day...hence 62-25.  What do you think??? :eusa-think:   I am just wondering if that is what they may have done in 1962. :)

The 62-series of serial numbers started in 1962.

1962 tractor serial numbers recorded so far range from 62-01104 to 62-21125

Your 702 serial 62-04216 lands in the 4th of 16 batches of 702's recorded so far and that batch ranges from 62-03298 to 62-05608

(I have added a zero to the 4-digit numbers so the database can handle them)

 

The 1962 attachments used an A-series serial and range from A-01387 to A-26964

The 1963 attachments used an A-series serial and range from A-27183 to A-55713

 

They still had 62-Series decals left so continued to use them in 1963 on the tractors.

The 1st were on a 1st of 4 batches of 953's and range from 62-00137 to 62-00928

The next 1963 tractor serials range from 62-20610 to 62-25718 and

guess they ran out of them before serial 26210 which is next. The highest recored so far is 47957 for a 1963 tractor.

 

In 1964 there were still A-series decals left so they were used on both the tractor and attachments now.

The 1964 serials recorded so far start at A-50086 and run to A-75181.

Next 1964 serial is 03301 and runs to 48689.

Next are the 1054's that range 48732 to 49725 in the 3rd batch of 3 and the last for 1964

Next is a 1965 1054A with serial 49065

Now more 1054A's ranging from 49533 to 50366 in the 1st of 2 batches.

 

These last 3 lines show a discrepancy. It appears the 1054's and 1054A's were built back to back and few owners know which model they have.

 

This is from a small sample of approx. 4500 serial numbers. The number of units they built is staggering. Some of the recorded numbers I have could have been read wrong, hard to read and always the chance of a typo even with me.

 

I think the way it happened was once they had enough parts to build x number of a model of tractor they issued a serial number for each in that batch. That batch then went into production. Later on they included the build date with the serial numbers in the batch. That's when you start to see the build dates in progressive order but the batches of serials are not progressive. They are progressive within the batch. Perhaps the serials were assigned to a batch before all the parts were available and when they did come in the build date was added.

 

Garry

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stevasaurus

Myron...we really did not get off topic.  As you can see, we are still trying to figure some things out ourselves.  I hope this helps you also...like was said...a few pictures makes it a lot easier.  The hood, hood stand, gas tank, foot rests, fenders can all help to really identify a year of a horse. :)  Give us a picture, and we are better then any Wheel Horse site out there.

 

It is not like Corvettes.  :)

 

gwest...thank you for sharing all that.  Top Shelf Mate.

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Brianrollins

ok so what would you have if you had a serial of 62-19851  because you lost me up there in all that text LOLOL 

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gwest_ca

You have a 1962 model something.

 

Serial 62-19555 is thought to be a 32E Lawn Ranger but could be a 32R

Serial 62-19851 is yours

Serial 62-19858 is thought to be a 32E Lawn Ranger but could be a 32R

 

Garry

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