bmsgaffer 2,043 #226 Posted February 28, 2014 Is it ok to RedSquare on a round stool? Yes, as long as you don't round stool on the RedSquare! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #227 Posted March 2, 2014 worked a little more on the engine today..... pulled the bearing plate and timing cover, will be replacing gaskets and seals. cleaned up the aluminum more on the block and other parts. think its almost there. will start to re assemble next week once i get all the seals and gaskets needed.... timing cover removed..... still am surprised how clean this engine is (other than the junk that i found in the sump). considering this engine sat out in the weather with parts missing, manifolds, spark plugs etc. it survived well. the bores had a little rust which cleaned up good, and there was water, mud and whatever else in the sump. i think i got lucky on this one...... main bearing on bearing plate side ...... was some discussion on the forum recently about the ball spacer in the governor being keyed to the cam gear. here is the plastic keyed version..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 649 #228 Posted March 2, 2014 Nice work Martin! You could eat off of that engine. Matt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ol550 825 #229 Posted March 2, 2014 Missed a spot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darg 7 #230 Posted March 5, 2014 I have a 418 with gray wheels that needs painting, can some one tell me what color of gray or silver is correct .What was the reason WH went to the gray wheels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #231 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) i would say they are more silver than gray originally. i painted mine the color they are as it was the closest to oem silver we have at work. out in the sun light its a little lighter in color, but its still darker than oem. if you look in some of my pics, the other 416s have untouched wheel color. I'm not sure why they went to silver but i like it with the red. i also like the old white, but not the white white they used in between. there have been some recent members on the forum who have painted wheels silver, maybe they can answer with the paint they used........ Edited March 5, 2014 by Martin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #232 Posted March 6, 2014 picked up another batch of plated parts, this one took about 3 weeks, I've been itching to get some of these parts back so i can get going on the build. my helpers were ready to inspect the quality of the plating...... guess i got some work to do now....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 649 #233 Posted March 7, 2014 Now thats just overkill Martin! I've never seen a Horse with a zinc plated brake band! Showoff! Those parts look amazing, and I'm sure your dying to start assembling, as I know I would be. Matt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #234 Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) yep, I really want to work on getting the engine together to see how that looks, plus i want to get more of the hood stand together as well. AND looking forward to making up the engine harness too........ rest assured I'm really enjoying putting this one together. Edited March 7, 2014 by Martin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leeave96 487 #235 Posted March 7, 2014 I hope this tractor is going to make it to the Wheelhorse show in PA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #236 Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) still not sure at this stage if we will be going Bill, so can't answer that...... small update. just came in from working on the engine, starting to get it back together, installed new seals and will be put back together with new gaskets. assembled the breather (i pulled the cap apart and took out the balls to be able to plate the steel pieces). don't have many pics on the engine assembly yet other than these..... installed new valve seals, the new ones (on the left) are slightly different than the old. the old ones were sealing ok but were getting a little hard so i thought i would replace them while its apart.... Onan parts for the assembly..... breather top in parts and back together. it took me a while to work out how this came apart, turns out the two steel pieces are pressed together so i clamped some vise grips on the lower part and used a large screwdriver to slowly separate the pieces. got them plated and time to get them assembled again.... manual lift lever ready to go back together..... installed on tractor..... pto parts ready for assembly. used new nyliner bushings 5666 and 5983. installed on tractor.... hopefully the engine will be well on the way to getting back together this afternoon..... Edited March 8, 2014 by Martin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishin4a416 2,185 #237 Posted March 8, 2014 Lookin good Martin! Those parts look awesome replated. In fact I see a few there I could use. The little plates that hold the PTO race on. I will rob Peter to pay Paul I reacon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinylguy 4,666 #238 Posted March 8, 2014 I'm Speechless!!! Really I mean it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ol550 825 #239 Posted March 8, 2014 No plating on the lift lever shaft? See you finally made your way to the RM&C section. You want my 1045 or C-175 next? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #240 Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) No plating on the lift lever shaft? See you finally made your way to the RM&C section. You want my 1045 or C-175 next? no plating?. that is what you call invisible plating. just noticed the move myself, i was going to contact a mod to see if it should be moved now that this whole thing has turned into an epic journey but looks like its already taken place.... who would have known that Terry would have started all this at the time. its all his fault....... its like I've graduated from wheel horse tractors to the resto section...... sure, if you want to give me some tractors to keep, i will take them...... Edited March 9, 2014 by Martin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #241 Posted March 9, 2014 now some engine stuff..... installed the bearing plate seal and bolted the bearing plate on the engine. i installed the shims same as how they came off. checked crank end clearance and right at .008. spec is .006-.012. sealer on bolts as they run through to the inside of crankcase. now onto the gear case cover. cleaned up inside of cover, installed new governor shaft seal and crank seal. bolted up to crank case. bolts have copper washers (which were annealed to help them seal) and bolts had sealer, again some go through crank case. now onto oil pan. spent a fair bit of time cleaning this part, really nasty inside. same goes with oil pick up. was removed from pump and cleaned well, then installed back in pump.... oil pan all bolted up, engine back on its feet again..... now onto the upper part of the engine. (another day)..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #242 Posted March 9, 2014 couldn't stay away from the engine, so went out to do a little more...... got the rotor and ignition pickup on.... stator..... flywheel was previously cleaned up, magnets masked off and painted. flywheel and starter on. starter got a cosmetic rebuild only as id already gone through it, cleaned it out and got it working. i bead blasted the aluminum and threw some plated parts at it..... little premature here getting the engine on the tractor, but i needed to work out some wiring and battery cables, so i placed it on the tractor and couldn't resist a couple pics....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinylguy 4,666 #243 Posted March 9, 2014 no plating?. that is what you call invisible plating. just noticed the move myself, i was going to contact a mod to see if it should be moved now that this whole thing has turned into an epic journey but looks like its already taken place.... who would have known that Terry would have started all this at the time. its all his fault....... its like I've graduated from wheel horse tractors to the resto section...... sure, if you want to give me some tractors to keep, i will take them...... I am happy to take the blame Martin. Usually when it is my fault, it is something bad but this time something good has come of it. I think we need to have an official unveiling party when its all done. Maybe a drum roll before you uncover #3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 649 #244 Posted March 10, 2014 That is absolutely breathtaking Martin! Its a true one of a kind work of art. Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbartlett1958 96 #245 Posted March 10, 2014 Martin, You have found a Diamond in the Rough on this one! Absolutely flawless. The benchmark has not only been raised, but etched in stone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 473 #246 Posted March 10, 2014 Your work inspires me Martin, I really mean it. It's always a pleasure (and informative) to be able to watch your builds. They read like a good book with great pictures! Thanks for posting and don't stop building! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ol550 825 #247 Posted March 10, 2014 I am happy to take the blame Martin. Usually when it is my fault, it is something bad but this time something good has come of it. I think we need to have an official unveiling party when its all done. Maybe a drum roll before you uncover #3 I'm thinking a block party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desko 552 #248 Posted March 13, 2014 Martin where do you-what kind of place do you have your parts plated if I remember correctly they are zinc plated or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,130 #249 Posted March 13, 2014 i get my plating done at McKays Plating in Hampton IL. Its a dedicated plating business. The parts are zinc plated with yellow chromate. they also do clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desko 552 #250 Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks for the info I'm going to look for places round where I live to do this plating for my parts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
