Otto_sand 0 #1 Posted September 15, 2013 Hello everyone! I'm a new member hailing al the way from Sweden and i picked up my first Wheel Horse about a week ago. It looked kinda weather beaten but at least it ran, I paied the man and got it home. So to my first question! The right side back wheel seemed to be "to far out" on the axle and there was a crack on the "round thing" that the rim sits on, I've un done the two bolts holding sitting in this "round thing" but it doesn't seem to want to part from the axle. Is there another step for the disasembley that I've missed? See attached photos. Also, where do I find the Wheel horse chassie number/frame number so I can identify which year my tractor's from? Only found the ID number for the engine so far.... Sorry for the bad grammar and the spelling, English isnät my native language Regards, Otto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 2,398 #2 Posted September 15, 2013 Welcome to Redsquare Otto. You may find the serial number to your tractor under the dash area. & to extract the trans axle hub you will need to use a puller , do not attempt to tap the cast iron hub as these often break as that is what seems to be happening with the one that you have on yours. The hub should be flush with the axle so yours has worked it way out a little . Do you have a another hub to replace the damaged one ? I have seen a lot worse tractors than yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otto_sand 0 #3 Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the fast response! Was just about to go to bed (it's 10:27 PM over here!). Yeah i figured a puller might do the job. Should i apply a healty amount of 5-56/WD40 a night befor or just heat it up befor I pull it? I'll stop by my local tools shop tomorrow and I'll post an update on the progress! Edit:I thought I would grind the hub down and weld it, or take it to a machinist place I know about to get a new one made, should be cheaper the buy a used/new one, If I could find one that is! Edited September 15, 2013 by Otto_sand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,195 #5 Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) From what I can see in this image: It appears as if there is an extra 'bit' in there... It looks like the previous owner had a problem with the hub loose and rather than repairing it properly, he found some material to uses as a 'sleeve', and has hammered it, and the hub, onto the axle. I don't think you can save that hub, and judging from what we can see, the AXLE might be nackered also. Whatever you do to remove the hub, do NOT try to use a hammer and beat it OFF the axle! You will almost certainly break the transaxle. If your tractor is a C-175 then someone has changed the engine. It may be a C-145. Why do you believe it to be a 175? Do you have the hood? Is this what it says on the decal? Edited September 15, 2013 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,656 #6 Posted September 15, 2013 Your English is much better than my Sweedish. The hub is cast iron and the axle is steel so welding them togather won't work, not a good idea anyway. Heating it would probably damage the seal, and hitting it will damage the internals in the rear end. The only good way is with a puller. The axle key thingy and set screws will hold the hub in place. Since it is damaged you may as well replace it. Good luck and keep us posted as you go along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,610 #7 Posted September 16, 2013 It almost looks like a 1/16" shim was used to 'grow' a 1" axle to a 1 1/8" diameter to fit the 1 1/8" hub. This, of course, is a fail from the get-go and the hub in the pic is dead dead dead in any case. When you finally get the hub off, and if the axle isn't damaged just get another hub of correct ID to fit the axle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel-N-It 2,967 #8 Posted September 16, 2013 Welcome to Red Square !!! Enjoy your Wheel Horse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,195 #9 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) That's sorta what I thought too Dave... but if the tranny IS from a 175 it's got the 1-1/8 axles already. Not sure if it's a 145, but I think so... but then, perhaps the tranny is from a model with 1" axles. Maybe the machine is a total 'mutt'. I myself might be tempted to don some SAFETY GEAR! (flying chunks of cast iron can injure! BE SAFE!) and pick up a cold chisel and inserting it into the crack to see if whacking with a hammer might not be the fastest way to liberate that hub. The hub is unusable anyway. I would turn the axle so the crack was straight up and down and support the other side of the hub with a hunk of railroad tie (or any block of mass) on a floor jack so the force of the blows goes into the hub and not the axle/bearing/tranny. Edited September 16, 2013 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesegrader 433 #10 Posted September 16, 2013 Otto, Welcome. Unfotunately, I agree with Jeff. That hub is dead, and it has tried to split itself off. If the puller doesn't work, I would take advantage of that crack, and try to split the cast iron hub further, until it finally lets go. Chisels and hammers--my favorite tools! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otto_sand 0 #11 Posted September 29, 2013 UPDATE! I'm going to ride the tractor as is, since it seems to be firm in place I don't think it's going to fall apart untill I take an angle grinder to it. I've droven it around the yard a bit and it seems fine so far. Painted the wheel when I had it of, which made the 3 other wheels look bad... I've also removed the hood and grinded the rust of as good as I could, and the painted it whit some rattle cans, not done yet though. I belive the engine might be from a GT14, since it's a 14HP variant, it probably hade the engine replaced at some point. Maybe one of the PO ran it on a low oil level or something. It said C-175 on the hood Can anyone point me in the direction where I could fine some replacement decals for the hood and belts for the mowing deck and the belt from the engine to the deck? On another note: Today I wen't with my brother to check out a Wheel Horse he'd spotted on the Swedish equalent of Craigs list. It turned out that the seller and his brother had about 10-12 Wheel Horses and some other yard tractors. Of course I asked if any of the was for sale other the the one advertised, and it turned out he had one he just put in a new Kohler 16hp single engine. I'm thinking of buying it so I can spend some time on my C-175 this fall/winter/spring whitout beeing in a hurry. Would be nice with a machine that is fully serviced and has an engine that doesn't leak oil Before I found these brothers with my brother I was actually thinking of buying a new mower with the deck on front, maybe a Cub Cadet, now I can buy this for less the half the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilSand 4 #12 Posted September 29, 2013 And im the brother, we picked up my first wheel horse today, a C160, and im gonna get a snowblade and a cutting deck later on, those guys had all the attatchments you could think of AND more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxolovsson 0 #13 Posted August 21, 2014 Hello everyone! Now I am the new owner of my first wheel horse. As I took over from Otto. The Hub, I have not fixed yet. I know a good mechanic who is used to repair the hard things. . Think he can weld or solder. To be continued =) Maybe I order a new .. 1 inch? Maybe someone can link from Ebay which one fits? Wheel horse is quite unusual in little Sweden Do not think it made any counterpart InnAbout that category? I bought the tractor for my father, as he loves to mow grass He has had standard mowlers that has broken down one by one =) The engine runs very well. And is completely sealed I have had the opportunity to buy a larger engine, a Kohler K582. Does it fit into my Frame? Is it the same mounts as the KT17 original engine? Thanks for your time! Hoping for answers. enclose some pictures / Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,276 #14 Posted August 21, 2014 The hub should be a 1 1/8". Post a wanted ad here and I'm sure you'll find one. I'm thinking the K582 isn't going to fit but I'm not sure. Somebody here will chime in on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxolovsson 0 #15 Posted October 21, 2014 Hi there . In Sweden it is rainy autumn cutting season is about to end . In the summer i have been working a lot on my C175 wheel horse is unusual in Sweden , so I google a lot and watch movies on Youtube from American enthusiasts , =) the main prob has been to get started the mowing deck .. biggest problem has been finding a proper tension on the belts slips when mowing tall grass . Some general tips? Mainly , I feel it is the belt from the engine to the deck , which is difficult to set up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxolovsson 0 #16 Posted October 21, 2014 Dose anyone know what belt i need from the engine to the deck. My guees i that a have a littel to short.. as it is impossible to put it to the upper groove om the clutch lever Maybe this is where i have my problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
