Stupid thing wont start

[dustycarter 3]

Hello. Been messing with this blame thing for 2 hours and finally just left it. I have so far bought a new solenoid. then I went and spent $30 on an ignition switch. Nothing. The tractor will run if I cross it over. But will not flinch if I turn the key. the voltmeter will go all the way over to 8 and the clutch pedal and parking brake lights come on. I have no seat switch. Never have had one on their. Both fuses are fine. Bu maybe I think this solenoid might be different. Heres the one I got. http://cgi.ebay.com/Toro-111674-Starter-So...=item335ed6d290

BUT the little thing on the bottom, on the old solenoid I had 2 on 1 side and teh otehr on the other side. Now I just have one. Could that be the problem. It says that this solenoid will work. I just want the dang thing fixed IThere is some wires loose but they are not important. Any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[squonk 38,845]

Not sure what you have but all the solenoids I've dealt with had this. 2 small terminals meant one was power (start terminal of switch) and the other was ground. it could be mounted on plastic and still work. If it had 1 small terminal, it meant that the solenoid had to be grounded thru it's mounting hole. Mike

[WH nut 553]

Are you getting 12 Volts to the small termal whe you have the key in the start position. If not, run a jumper from Bat+ to the small terminal and see if it start. if it does the solionoind and starter are good. No id you dont have 12V at the small terminal you have a safety switch or wire problem. The start side goes from switch to clutch to pto safet switch. Its a process of elemination.

[rmaynard 14,864]

The first question I have to ask is do you have a wiring diagram or are you trying to do this in the dark?

Bob

[dustycarter 3]

The first question I have to ask is do you have a wiring diagram or are you trying to do this in the dark?

Bob

Yes. I do have a diagram. I traced all the wires. I think the guy before me that had it rewired it in different colors. There are alot of stray wires, taped up wires and wires that are not connected. WH nut. It will turn over and run and work just like normal. But I can't get it to start with the switch. I bought a new solenoid for it just a few days ago. I am right now having to dig potatoes . So I am just crossing it over. This is really confusing. Thanks

[dustycarter 3]

Not sure what you have but all the solenoids I've dealt with had this. 2 small terminals meant one was power (start terminal of switch) and the other was ground. it could be mounted on plastic and still work. If it had 1 small terminal, it meant that the solenoid had to be grounded thru it's mounting hole. Mike

Hello mike. Thanks for the help. I grouned the black wire and pluged in the start(orange) wire. Hopefully thats a few steps forward. Thanks

[squonk 38,845]

Post a pic of the solenoid if you can.

[dustycarter 3]

Sorry for the late reply. Here is what I bought http://cgi.ebay.com/Starter-Solenoid-Toro-...=item335f26b8f3 Thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISup...em=220639705331

[WH nut 553]

See my post above. You need to find a starting point and go from there, jumping all around just waste your time. Check to see if you have 12 volts to the switch, and then coming out in start. Let us know from there

[squonk 38,845]

That solenoid needs to be grounded at the mounting bolts to work. Make sure the surface of where ever it mounts is clean and is actually a ground path.

[dustycarter 3]

Hello Squonk. I sanded everything, and cleaned it off with before I mounted the new solenoid on the plate. Don't you just love electrical.

[squonk 38,845]

Hello Squonk. I sanded everything, and cleaned it off with before I mounted the new solenoid on the plate. Don't you just love electrical.

I used to do automotive electrical work in a shop when no one else would do it. I told them don't hurry me and no flat rate BS. I wasn't going to spend 4 hrs. on a car and get paid for 20 min.

[Save Old Iron 1,563]

:thumbs:

[dustycarter 3]

See my post above. You need to find a starting point and go from there, jumping all around just waste your time. Check to see if you have 12 volts to the switch, and then coming out in start. Let us know from there

Ok here is the truth. I have traced every single wire down just like you told me not to do. Then put it back together and then the fuse for teh voltmeter and the light blew. Oh boy. And my voltmeter is lost in teh wind about 4 year ago. I just never bought a new one. Honestly Rick I am sick of this thing. Is there a way I could just by pass the lights and all that and just have the start, voltmeter and hour meter to work? Thanks very much. I am sorry for all teh this here and this there. Thanks again! Dusty

[WH nut 553]

If you want to bypass allt he safety switches, run a wire from the start side of the ign. Switch to the small terminal of the solinoid