jla1257 2 #1 Posted January 20, 2010 I got my 1257 out of the storage unit a couple of days ago, in anticipation of having some work to do. I fired it up and drove around the yard without any major problems, but when I put a load on the engine it started to object. I can not say how much weight was on the back of it but it was only a 28 ton hydraulic log splitter (see photo below). On flat ground I had to throttle all the way down and open the choke wide open to keep it running. Once I hit an incline it really started to show its unwillingness to work. The engine would start dying out, the generator warning light would come on and it gave up its spirit. I am not a small engine guy (or a large engine guy), but what I figured on doing was change the air and fuel filters, clean the points, give it a new spark plug and use some spray carburetor cleaner. Does anyone have other thoughts or suggestions? Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rollerman 290 #2 Posted January 20, 2010 Sounds like a gummy carb to me...probably from sitting in storage. It should run "happy" agan after you do what you have planned out above. Keep us posted how it turns out & sweet looking 1257 too. :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dw Andy 0 #3 Posted January 20, 2010 Sounds like a gummy carb to me...probably from sitting in storage. It should run "happy" agan after you do what you have planned out above. Keep us posted how it turns out & sweet looking 1257 too. Yeah I agree on the gummy carb. Next time you store it away put in some " Gasoline Stabilizer" Nice seein' you're tractor out in the woods doin' some work. :banghead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9JAB 156 #4 Posted January 20, 2010 KNOW YOUR GUM :WRS: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy w h 4 #5 Posted January 20, 2010 Hope ya get it running again!!!! Keep us posted!! Indy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cody 268 #6 Posted January 20, 2010 Yup sounds like a good carb cleaning and a tune up and she will be purring again, great looking 1257 :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedbump 0 #7 Posted January 20, 2010 I would check for some water in the carberator bowl. It will sometimes run ok untill you put a load on it, than, as it reqires more gas it sucks up a drop or so from the bottom of the bowl (also happens with dirt/rust). Often, you can just remove the bowl, clean it and reinstall and be up and running. But you need to check for water or dirt in the tank. Condensation is often the problem for my area of the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stress Test Pullin 0 #8 Posted January 20, 2010 KNOW YOUR GUM lmao but a gummy carb does sound like the culpret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jla1257 2 #9 Posted January 20, 2010 Thanks all who have responded so far. I have only had the 1257 for around 6 months now. Prior to that it was my grandfather Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #10 Posted January 20, 2010 I use a product called "Sea Foam", and it works in the fuel of gasoline & diesel engines, and also in the crank-case oil. It can be purchased at RURAL KING, and many, many auto parts stores. I used it in a 1978 Goldwing that was running poorly and only 33 MPG. The M/C still ran rough when the SEA FOAM was in the fuel, but after a couple of tanks, it ran great, and 40 MPG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 38,921 #11 Posted January 20, 2010 I use a product called "Sea Foam", and it works in the fuel of gasoline & diesel engines, and also in the crank-case oil. It can be purchased at RURAL KING, and many, many auto parts stores. I used it in a 1978 Goldwing that was running poorly and only 33 MPG. The M/C still ran rough when the SEA FOAM was in the fuel, but after a couple of tanks, it ran great, and 40 MPG! Sea Foam is great. Take off the bowl, dump out the crud and run Sea Foam thru it and I'll bet it will be good as new! :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickv1957 70 #12 Posted January 21, 2010 Looks good there in the woods,hope you get er going,Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jla1257 2 #13 Posted January 21, 2010 I will give the Sea Foam a try tomorrow if I can find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocking 416 1 #14 Posted January 21, 2010 Hey dont feel bad my john deere 110 did the same thing to me today. got it running after varnish fuel. She was running great. So i gave it a bath with ivory soap an degreaser. Crank Crank put put. I put differnt needle an seat in Same thing. i think ill check the points an do some coil testing first thing in the am Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwilson 128 #15 Posted January 21, 2010 Maybe it does have worms! :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jla1257 2 #16 Posted January 21, 2010 I went to town today and picked up a new sparkplug, spray carb cleaner, dry gas and Sea Bright. The air filter needed to be special ordered. After using the few things I did manage to pick up, the 1257 ran quite a bit better up and down the road with a slight incline. Unfortunately, I can not get into the yard because we had a pretty severe rain with flooding last night and I do not want to have to pull it out of the mud again. Later I will try hooking my 5X8 trailer up to it and see how it does with that load (which needs to be done before someone complains to the home owners association about me driving my tractor on the road). I did find a small drip of gas coming off of the carburetor bowl but did not fuss with that in fear of tearing up the gasket without a replacement on hand. So, for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 4,876 #17 Posted January 21, 2010 Thanks all who have responded so far. I have only had the 1257 for around 6 months now. Prior to that it was my grandfather Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jla1257 2 #18 Posted January 21, 2010 I put a load on her and it was a no go. I guess she was just putting me on. I guess its time to start fussing with the carburetor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #19 Posted January 21, 2010 Did you look at the points?? If it starts ok and runs reasonably smoothly but staggers under load in addition to adjusting the high speed jet you should also adjust the governor. It is covered in the K series service manual but the short version is: Engine off pull throttle wide open. Loosen clamp on the governor arm..holding the throttle arm wide open turn the governor shaft away from the carb (anti-clockwise) until it stops. Re-tighten the clamp. It is rare for them to move but if someone had been tinkering..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 38,921 #20 Posted January 22, 2010 I went to town today and picked up a new sparkplug, spray carb cleaner, dry gas and Sea Bright. The air filter needed to be special ordered. After using the few things I did manage to pick up, the 1257 ran quite a bit better up and down the road with a slight incline. Unfortunately, I can not get into the yard because we had a pretty severe rain with flooding last night and I do not want to have to pull it out of the mud again. Later I will try hooking my 5X8 trailer up to it and see how it does with that load (which needs to be done before someone complains to the home owners association about me driving my tractor on the road). I did find a small drip of gas coming off of the carburetor bowl but did not fuss with that in fear of tearing up the gasket without a replacement on hand. So, for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jla1257 2 #21 Posted January 22, 2010 Sorry, Sea Foam. It did run a lot better and smoother after adding the Sea Foam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites