64s 83 #1 Posted December 14, 2009 Hi Guys, Could anyone post the spec numbers off of their 34E/R and 604/654. I'm a little confused as to the correct engine. Wheel Horse by Years lists; 34E (electric start) as H60-75064B 34R (recoil start) as H60-75063B and 604 (recoil start) as H60-75064B 654 (electric start) as H60-75063B Am I missing something, the 34E (electric) is the same as the 604 (recoil)???? Could anyone who has an original survivor please post the spec numbers - I'm looking for the correct 34E engine. Thanks, George :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz 502 #2 Posted December 15, 2009 According to the Toro site, the 34E takes the H60-75064B engine. Hopefully that's correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64s 83 #3 Posted December 15, 2009 Thanks Buzz, but I'm looking for actual owners numbers. The web sites have been know to be wrong and it doesn't make sense that one engine would be used for a recoil start on one machine and the same engine be used as an electric start for another machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvairplanes 34 #4 Posted December 15, 2009 I'll add to the confusion... Last week I bought out the remaining inventory of an old wheel horse dealer... Included (among others) were a 654 and a Lawn Ranger 34E... 654: Repainted years ago...ID nearly impossible to read...here's the best I could do... H60-75267G Serial # 7180 04223. I'm pretty sure of the numbers except for the "67G" on the 6 horse Tec. and they were pretty much just a guess !!! Lawn Ranger 34E...Well, it might be a 34E ??? H60-750618 Serial # 3255 04816 I used a spot light...magnifying glass, graphite dust..I'm pretty sure of all the numbers except the "618", and as above... pretty much a guess !!! Of course, the numbers I can't bet on...they are the most important ones. The ID plate on the Little Lawn Ranger has so many coats of new paint it may never again be legible. I might try steel wool???? Wheel Horse/Toro site says... '63 33E used H60-75009 '64 34E used H60-75064B Waiting for someone to solve the mystery... Marv (NW Oh) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz 502 #5 Posted December 15, 2009 I'm pretty sure of all the numbers except the "618" '64 34E used H60-75064B Marv, on the last three digits of the spec number, the 618 you see could very well be a 64B. Part of the "4" could be worn making it look like a "1", and a "B" and an "8" are very similar looking when worn. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #6 Posted December 16, 2009 George I have an original 654 (electric start) with numbers H60-75063B...I had a 34E a few years ago with the same engine. My 33E and my 653 have engine numbers H60-75009...My 603 engine is H60-75016 Michael My 33E and my 653 have engine numbers H60-75009...My 603 engine is H60-75016 Cant get to the 603 engine..Sorry Heres the 655 engine H60-75117D Reference Chart Spec Wheel Horse Models 75009 33E, 653 75016 33R, 603 75063B 34E, 654 75064B 34R, 604 75117D L155, 655 75117E L156 75118D L105, L106, 605 75117F L157 75117H 1968 L. Ranger 75118F L107 75118H 1968 L. Ranger & 500 Special P.S Ive seen letters at the end of the spec number be one more or one less...Example 655 ...Ive seen 75117C..Etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64s 83 #7 Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks Guys for the info. Based on Michael's machines and other info I've uncovered, I'm led to believe that the Toro site is wrong, and the correct engine for the 1964 Tecumseh electric start is the H60-75063B. If anyone else has a tag that differs (or collaborates the info), please let me know. Thanks again everyone, George :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #8 Posted December 16, 2009 hey george, one thing that makes it real simple is the Recoil engines such as the h60-75064B and others they dont have starter covers mounted to the shroud as far as the toro site :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
