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About Sarge

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    1277 , '73 16 Auto , '74 C-160 , '74/75? D-180
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    Ohio, Illinois
  • Occupation
    Union Laborer , Local 393
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    Wheel Horse's and fabricating , old Land Cruisers , welding
  1. First sickle bar!

    Should never really run it over 1/2 throttle - that wobble box drive cannot withstand moving any faster without committing suicide...and be careful hitting any hard objects not to mention keep any kids well away from it . Sarge
  2. Using thick paper gasket for intake?

    Be prepared for a fight - that stuff does not cut easily nor cleanly . I recommend using a jig saw with a very fine blade and take your time - I've had to make a few over the years and it was a real pita at best . The equipment used to stamp those must be some very high strength steel cutters and I doubt they last very long . Sarge
  3. Why am I so careless?

    I absolutely agree - the wire flags were much faster to install and lasted longer , but the plastic was far safer for everyone else . The whole problem was when the industry went to contractors for the utilities - I averaged well over 100 tickets a day . Some I could write off as I had nothing in that district/area , but still visited at least 60-70 sites 5-6 days a week which made for some very long days . Add emergencies with broken water mains and cable hits or gas leaks - it was nearly impossible to keep up and we had a rotational on-call system where you had to be available 24/7 , I went out almost every night . My territory was 5 counties and included most of Peoria Metro - that section alone was a real pain with Cilco Gas/Electric since their system was in poor shape and their mapping was horrible . GTE across the region was almost as bad and Illinois Power Gas/Electric was really nice with their digitized maps that had good accuracy . We had pushed in the first year between my supervisor , myself and a company boss to get JULIE (Illinois one-call system) written into a mandatory law - had too many hits on fiber optic lines by homeowners since prior it wasn't mandatory - had a guy knock out the entire long-distance service to metro Peoria digging a hole for a lousy bush . That one wasn't GTE , but cost AT&T nearly 2.2 million - they joined in the lobbying effort to help us push the State to write the law and it passed easily . In my opinion , the liability should be on the nut running the mower at least to some extent - you should never run over objects that are not grass or small twigs , the machine isn't designed for it . Those wire flags stick up at least a foot and have a brightly colored flag on top - why run it over with a mower ?? Plus , you're interfering with upcoming construction work that could impact local utilities on a huge scale . There are spots that have 4" high pressure gas lines running 1,000psi ,the fiber optic that feeds NORAD or even the communication link system to nuclear plants - these lines are not only critical but can be dangerous to hit . The folks doing the digging are expected and are liable to call in for a re-mark if the utility marks have been wiped out by age or mowing - that results in an emergency call back to the Locators and they have 2hrs to respond , which is a real problem if they have a large district and most commonly their territory is pretty large . At least in recent years the states and even the utilities themselves have had TV and other campaigns to inform the Public better about how important this stuff is - you really don't want that bill if you hit any line , let alone some that can easily kill you . North of me on a desolate country road is a feeder fiber that links NORAD to the Pentagon - no one is allowed anywhere near that line and twice I had the State Police involved when someone thought they could sneak in and get their work done without supervision . In many cases I was required by GTE to babysit their fiber lines and in some cases I dug up the lines and monitored the construction work to protect that line by order of GTE's local Managers - which put me off my route for the better part of a day and created a ripple effect of other Locators having to cover my territory and emergencies . The whole industry needs to evolve better and the utilities themselves need to invest into getting this stuff marked in a manner that doesn't put them at risk . The Laws have helped , but the utilites interest in it was to protect vital infrastructure and mostly their profits - that's why you'll see so many different contract companies doing locates over just the span of a few years - the come in and usually go out of business in a short time . I do agree the plastic is a much better idea , but the extra time it takes to work with those flags results in Locators that can't keep up and the industry doesn't leave any room for that - the industry has to change one way or another . I'm surprised there haven't been more injuries and lawsuits from people getting hurt by those wire flags - one of those coming out of a mower discharge could be lethal at that speed . Not clear on why the industry went back to using them , probably due to the extra time it took to work with the plastic replacements - who knows....? Most people never know how those marks suddenly show up in their yard , who is doing the work and let alone why - they just suddenly appear out of nowhere . Many are quite surprised to find out what is actually underground on their property , especially in rural areas around here and elsewhere . Working construction means I have to deal directly with this stuff and I see some of the craziest results of an industry that hasn't evolved very well - nor upgraded nearly enough to keep up with demands and expansion . The amount of things buried in the ground over the last 75yrs is amazing - from the surface you'd never even know it , lol.... Sarge
  4. Why am I so careless?

    It's staggering how many little kids get hurt by lawn tractors and push mowers , you'd think people would be a lot more aware of the hazards in our modern society compared to years past . Another odd one - I used to be a Utilities locator at one time for a contract outfit from MN called NORAM . We had a company-wide bulletin come over the pagers to call in about telephone locates for GTE....stop using the steel wire flags and get to the office asap for replacements . The old flags were made of a pretty stout wire to help poke them into rocky soil and clays - they worked well but if someone hit it with a mower....ugh . I'd imagine most times they just built up on the mower blade/shaft and didn't do any real harm - at least not to the operator . But , a gal wearing flip-flops was using a push mower and nearly cut off both legs at the ankle - GTE put out a bulletin nationwide to stop using those flags since some serious liability was coming their way via the lawyers . This was back in the early 90's and I never did find out how she made out - but we were stuck with those plastic flags for 3yrs and we all hated them . Had to make up a poker rod to add onto the marking paint stick handle , then made 30+ more for the other guys in the company . I see now in recent years they went back to the steel wire style flags , but the wire is definitely a lot softer and not the same gauge size as before - guess that's their solution . I have somewhat about the same luck around here - bashed a finger badly cracking those allen headed bolts loose on the D's hydro pump with the bracing on the right side foot rest , then repeated the same injury about 1/8" from the first one again a week later on the second round with that pump . Can't get the dumb thing to heal since it split part of the nail bed on the right index finger lengthwise . Probably should have had it stitched but too late now....as usual . I need to hunt around and get some suture packs , sulfa packs and silver oxide paste for my supplies here for "ouch" moments so I can keep working - customers get odd reactions to blood on their equipment for some reason...lol . Sarge
  5. Tree’s down

    I'd gladly trade for one of the Husky or Stihl saws for my 1971 Homelite C-7 , with the bigger bar it's knocking on 60lbs - but you can never stall that engine and with the last modified chain I had it would throw out wood shavings too fast to go through the clutch guard so I had to cut it out a bit . Lot of fun to run when I was younger , not sure I'd even try it now .... That thing has the sweetest tune to it - sounds like an old Bultaco in a hand-held package...wonder if it's worth anything to the collector crowd ? Sarge
  6. 227-5 No drive

    To my knowledge , that model is not one that was sold in the US - maybe a Belgium built model ? On most designs , if there is a problem with the transmission drive it's generally the belt itself or the pulley system and guards that make it work correctly as well as linkage and springs . Maybe if we had a picture it would give better insight to how it's built and we could help . If the belt is glazed (semi-burned) on the sides or just worn out , broken springs/linkage will all cause that type of issue . Some of the Peerless transmissions are known to have input shaft bearing problems and can destroy themselves when the bearing goes bad as well . Got a picture or two of this tractor ? Also , Welcome to Red Square ! Sarge
  7. known issues k341 ?

    What model tractor is this ? Looks like a C-160 , which is highly sought after in the US... Sarge
  8. Deere deck on 520xi

    If it were the older model Deere deck I'd do the swap - but consider how crappy the newer Edge series Deere decks cut the grass first , the have a pretty bad reputation over here and love to clog up . Plus , they do not disperse the clippings very well , actually do a worse job than the older WH decks . I've got a lawn tractor with a 48" Edge series - it's crap compared to the old WH 48" deck which will still cut pretty well when almost completely plugged with wet grass . Results vary , but I'd invest the time and effort to repair the WH deck myself . Maybe the larger Edge deck is designed different than their 48" version...? Sarge
  9. Ok...update time . I'm flat out of weather and good temps to get stuff done around here - no garage and too many issues with arthritis/hands/legs/back so it's time to move on . I did get the D back together after replacing the pump housing gasket I got from LJ Fluid Power - hope they never run out of parts stock and great people . Nice to talk to someone who knows these pump systems inside and out as well as Wheel Horse models . In fact , other than other owners , I've never found a business that knew anything about them other than WH used Sundstrands - these guys know the parts themselves like the back of your hand , love it ! Like I said - that gasket was indeed leaking once I had it apart and a closer inspection performed - someone has been in here before for sure . The slippers and everything look new , not kidding and are highly polished . Same deal with the valve plates and such as well as the swash plate - all nice and shiny with no scratches at all . Now that it's back together , a new leak has cropped up - this time at the swash plate shafts on both sides with the left one being far worse . Pump works good and feels stronger than ever , but the direction control seems far too sensitive and it constantly wants to creep no matter how many times I've gone through the adjustment procedures . It's almost like it has no neutral point now - maybe linked to the leak in the swash plate shafts ?? I've gone through the linkage drawing for the '74 model that fits everything on this beast - all parts are assembled correctly and I've corrected some wear in the cam plate with a bronze sleeve bearing to remove the excessive slop it had . I need to read through the Sundstrand manual again and re-visit the procedures for putting the housing section back on the pump - maybe I missed something . I know for certain I got the valve plate oriented over that indexing pin , remembered that from the manual and paid extra attention to it during the reassembly process . Maybe something moved with the swash plate pins or those parts when I opened it - need to figure that out and repair those leaking shafts as I don't want oil being sucked into the engine's flywheel screen and coating the fins in the big K . I know I probably did the reassembly somewhat backwards - I centered the pump block on the plate and lowered the housing onto the block section - I think the manual wants it done the other way and maybe that's the reason for the direction control's operation being so weird . I did move the offending trailer with the big D so I could get all the wiring harnesses done and the lighting installed along with putting the deck back on it - the weather is suppose to turn colder and we have rain coming this weekend . I cannot do all the wiring when it's cold , my hands just don't work and down around 60* the Raynaud's in my hands kicks in , rendering them basically useless . I used to love winter and never had problems working in the cold - those days are gone so the trailer is getting done now and depending upon Mother Nature the D may have to sit until Spring . I've rather use the D for snow work than the 16Auto but I did get a new acceleration valve from LJ Fluid Power - I think it will be $35 well spent to fix it's spastic forward/reverse operation - the thing wants to toss you off the seat fairly often and I'm sure it's not doing the gear parts/axles any good either . For whatever reason , using the blade with that one is a pain as it has about zero finesse compared to the D and the old 1277 - I sure do miss that tractor and wanted to have it back in service prior to this winter but that's not going to happen. I'm starting to re-think the situation and what models I want to keep - need something dead reliable that I don't have to work on , ever . Maybe Mother Nature will suddenly cooperate here in Illinois , but that's highly doubtful and a buddy just traded off his mid-size Deere compact for a nicer , newer Kubota with a cab , loader and full hydraulics - man is that one sweet machine . We picked the trailer off the jack stands in one shot with it , the tractor didn't even act like anything was hooked to it's bucket - that was nice and a lot easier than using the engine hoist . If nothing else , he can plow the drive for me - I do enough welding for his stuff he sort of owes me some work anyway...lol . Sarge
  10. Pretty lucky score on those parts - hope the rest of it goes that well . Makes you wonder why previous owners spent so much money on something to just neglect and ruin it - never have figured out why some do that . Sarge
  11. Why am I so careless?

    I've turned one tractor over in my lifetime - it's been wheel weights and fluid in those tires ever since and never even come close to happening again . Now , the old Samurai I used to own - we flipped that thing so many times it was almost just a routine - never damaged it too bad due to the light weight but quite a few Sunday afternoon repairs so it could get me to work on Monday....lol . Between being an off-roader for so many years and working Construction I've seen the results of not thinking things through or not using the right equipment to do the job - have seen quite a few people get hurt as well as myself pretty badly in '06 . To this day I won't work around chains that are holding a load , lol . My ex-brother in law's sister flipped a JD lawn tractor a few years ago and lost most of her right arm when the mower blades got her - the safety switch in the seat failed to shut the engine off and when it blew up she got burned from some of the hot engine oil . Her neighbor saw it happen thankfully and got her an ambulance as well as got the hot tractor off her . Lawyers are still trying to work that one out and she's mostly back in one piece , although quite different looking now . If you're having to deal with slopes and conditions that are making it dangerous to mow - might want to consider adding chains as well - I run them on mine due to a bad hill and some ditches - never slip and no damage to the turf . A lot of folks fear tearing up the grass but it's better to have the traction versus being under a tractor....and damage to the grass is so minimal it's worth it . Sarge
  12. I think most of the replacement Kohlers were a dark blue - I have an Allis-Chalmers/Simplicity 916H here with a replacement K-341 - low hours too . Trying to decide if I want to put it in the old '74 C-160 or do an "upgrade" on the old 1277 when I do the frame rebuild for a broken (read - shattered) transmission mounting plate ... I've always wondered why they thought those model/serial decals were a good idea back in the day - what a lousy spot and material ...! Sarge
  13. A rude awakening.

    I saw that forecast on the The Weather Channel - a hurricane heading into Ireland/UK is sure odd to see . Hope everything turns out ok - lot of folks have taken such a hard hit this season with all those big ones . Very interesting roofing - how heavy are those pre-cast pieces ? They look fairly thick , too...? Sarge
  14. Tree’s down

    It's all good until one of the outriggers on the truck sinks into the ground - I took a ride years ago from 45' up on a heavy 2 axle D series truck . Wasn't too fast , but fast enough to crack the bucket and fubar an ankle pretty good . It took two of our cable plows and a lot of chains to right the truck again , then back up that pole to finish hanging strand . I did climb some , burned a few poles too but the worst one was a pole that had a rotten spot where my gaff kicked out - I started down but managed to kick away from it to avoid looking like a creosote porcupine , and landed on someone's mailbox . That put a really deep bruise on my lower back and destroyed their box as well as driving the pole in almost a foot deeper . I didn't work with the aerial crew too often , most times it was just helping a run through heavily wooded areas and climbing trees to run the strand - my main work was on the underground crew doing bores and plowing in cables - riding a vibratory plow is really tough on everything , especially the human in the seat . When it came time to set the towers for the head-in building I did quite a few of those - most of ours were 80' free-standing units erected by hand in 10' sections - rigging those upper antennas was no fun since they are so long but back then I could wrap my legs into the tower frame so I could reach it . You really had to have a young and Gumby-like body to do that stuff - back in the day was fine but no way I could do nearly any of it now . You got a pretty smoking deal on getting those down despite having to do your own cleanup - most contractors around here would have been at least double that . Sarge
  15. D200 W/ loader BIG project

    I'd have to say that took some serious pressure washing and maybe abrasive blasting . What's up with the governor ? Sarge