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About 6bg6ga

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  1. 312-8 electrical woes

    Couldn't agree more here. Any VOM meter even a $5 harbor freight meter is a useful piece of gear to have in your tool box or on your bench. Sure, I have some very expensive bench meters for my electronics repair work that have to be calibrated each and every year. This extent isn't needed to repair a tractor or diagnose a electrical problem on one of these jewels. So far we have mentioned spark checkers, VOM's, test lights, as some of the necessary pieces of diagnostic equipment that will make your life easier and happier.
  2. 312-8 electrical woes

    Story here.. Many years ago when I was young I had an old chevy pick up truck. One day it refused to start. First thing I checked was battery voltage followed by battery voltage with my meter ground on the chassis. I had no voltage. The cable looked like new. Being it was an old chevy and the cables were a bit longer than they probably needed to be I cut back the cable end near the battery and revealed a mess under the insulation. I simply cut it back several inches and used a universal battery cable end rechecked it and I was back in business. So, things can look better than they actually are. A resistance check If I had done one would have revealed the problem with a high resistance reading. Like it has been mentioned many times before to check and or tighten ground and power connections. Ground cables do need to come in contact with virgin metal also. A VOM (volt , ohm, meter ) is a necessity for any troubleshooting work if one wants to be proficient and speedy at it. Many times a simple resistance check on the cable will reveal if there is indeed a problem or if its problem free and one needs to move on and check another portion of the circuit. When I was young I learned to draw out circuits in order to learn how they work and to improve my mental abilities in problem solving. Many times since then I have had to rely on myself to draw out complicated circuits simply because the designer or parent company wouldn't part with a printed schematic. As I mentioned the VOM meter is a helpful tool that will provide one the ability to check resistance, voltage, current draw in some of the better larger meters, such things as diode tests/functions, and transistor junction and beta testing just to name a few.
  3. 312-8 electrical woes

    Well, I have a 616Z Zero turn mower. Most here would not consider that a Wheel Horse. Not much to be found in my neck of the woods wheel horse wise. When I retire and we move to AZ I plan to hunt one down. I'm serously thinking about chrome plating the tractor just for fun and will call it the Chrome Horse. As for my feet... well the dogs like them.
  4. 312-8 electrical woes

    It never fails to excite me when common sense is used as a part of troubleshooting. Simple plain comon sense with a splash of preventative maintenance. The more threads that I read the more I am starting to understand the love people here have for a well designed machine. There are the regulars here that I believe respond to everything that is posted everyone asking for help. I am a person without patience and highly critical and I hope people will take me with a grain of salt at times when I get wound up. Having said that I do freely express my discust with those wanting only to question every answer given by those with many hours on their hour meters. Unfortunately, this thread hasn't gone to well to this point. I hope that my comments weren't responsible for its down fall. Its just that I would sincerely like to see the information that has been given to be at least tried before it is questioned by those possibly not having any mechanical experience ot aptitude.

    Blew a disk in 1986 at work. It took over a month to get operated on. After the operation I was told never to go to a bone cracker by the surgeon that operated on me. They fused L3-L5 which I promptly broke loose once I was back to work. I've never seen an instance where going to one of them has helped anyone yet.
  6. Trip to Toro Headquarters

    So many toys and so little time. What a great tour !
  7. C 145 buy or pass

    I live in the land of no Wheel Horse tractors so any model would be a good deal.
  8. DAMAGE to Kohler STARTERS

    Hammers and starters don't get along. Anyone using hammer probably needs to have their head examined. If it don't start hitting it can case a great deal of damage. The thought that a hammer hit can some how cause brushes to make contact is probably along the line of a miracle. It ain't going to happen. Simply remove and repair it.
  9. Some will probably disagree with me on this but I see no need to change to suppression core ( resistance spark plug wires). The suppression wires first came out during the early years of engine smog controls primarily to curb interference on your TV set. The resistance that is available in the resistance wires does nothing to add to the life of your ignition coil. It will work fine with or without it. I've used it for years with small engines that have ignition points and a ignition coil. It will however can cause a slight noise pattern on a TV if it is near the engine when it is running. The main thing when selecting a coil is to have a coil with the correct primary and secondary resistance parameters.
  10. Onan P-Series Ignition Module Replacement [Photos]

    I would say good job. If I were to offer several ideas they would be to incorporate the troubleshooting of the ignition module, and coil prior to the disassembly process. You could probably sell it as a book. The "Spark Ring" is nothing than a magnet. The simple test for that is will it repel another magnet. They very seldom if ever will go bad but may be damaged by junk like debris and such. They are what one would call a misunderstood part because most people simply like to throw parts at something thinking they are doing preventative maintenance. If it still will repel another magnet and is not damaged the part is still good. You might touch on the importance of the thermal insulator under the module/sensor. Its job is to provide thermal protection. It is not to provide electrical isolation however.
  11. Barn rescue 856 running roughly

    I'll give you that one. But before you rule on the fuel pump being bad don't you think the low and high speed adjustments could stand a look at?
  12. Barn rescue 856 running roughly

    Post 13 says he has a full fuel filter which should indicate there is enough pressure to both fill the filter and the bowl. It the filter was partually filled I wouldn't dream of questioning what you have said rmaynard. Why not try adjusting the jets first to rule that out completely if the poster hasn't already done that?
  13. Barn rescue 856 running roughly

    Sir, Would you consider looking at the carb adjustments? In info below is for a Kohler carb. The Kohler file below also lists a different carb that was also available that has different jet adjustments. Please note which carb you have and also do write down your adjustment positions. It helps if you can use a magic marker or a touch of finger nail polish to mark the adjustment screw. The adjustments below are for the Kohler carb which is supposed to be the more common carb for this engine. Keep in mind that even if the same type of carb is taken off and identical engine the carb adjustments can vary because of internal condition, and other factors. Does the carb that you replaced the original with have a low speed adjustment and a high speed adjustment? If so I would like you to count the number of turns or partial turns required to gently and I will repeat gently seat the adjustment screws and write it down. According to Kohler's information the low speed jet should be one and 1/4 turns from the seated position and the high speed or main should be 2 turns. Now, if the carb is a different model or off a different sized engine this figure is going to change. Do this with the engine NOT running and then set the adjustments to what I have mentioned and see if she will start. If she won't start then turn the adjustments back to where they were in the first place get it started and warmed up and let it act up and then adjust the main ( adjustment near the fuel bowl) a little counter clockwise and this will richen up the mixture a tad bit. Note if it starts running any better or not. If it starts running a bit better try a tad more rich and do this in small very small steps. Increase RPM's and see if she starts to lean out and if so richen a little more as needed to obtain a nice runnable condition. Once that is done go to a idle and adjust the low speed for a balance of a good RPM and run ability. Please do report back and advise of a condition change better or worse. I'm thinking that it may be a simple adjustment procedure needed and you have nothing to loose except a little of your time. http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinecatalog/pdf/ens_593_f_all.pdf Spark plug at .025 gap? Points at .020? Points unburned or pitted?
  14. black rat snake

    I hear they taste like chicken. Thank God we don't have rattlers, cottonmouths, or copperheads where I live. Come to think of it I haven't even seen a garter snake in 25-30 years.
  15. black rat snake

    At least the snake is a Wheel Horse Fan You have a good point. Snakes do some good by keeping rats and other rodents under control. I still don't like them and probably never will. When I retire we plan a move to AZ. I don't like the thoughts of rattlesnakes or scorpions. My brother and his wife have wintered in AZ for years now and never have seen a snake but have seen two small scorpions. I understand duct tape does wonders on scorpions and probably easier than patching a 45 cal hole in the floor too.