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Finally Project Jr. is drivable this it before we test drove this beast She is ready to go after he over 20 year nap. tommarow the decals,different muffler,tuning and get the steeing wheel to fit on. How do i get the wheel to fit on the steering shaft it stuck on there but i cant get it off.

Currently this is the best I can do tonight, I will try for more pictures tomorrow when I'm home. The snowblower is in matching conditions with no rust and good paint.

I stumble on this from youtube.

I recently bought his little wheelhorse tractor off of a guy and he didn't have a clue about what model it is. I've been staring at and comparing pictures online for several days and I've not concluded exactly which model it is. The model tag is gone off of it but the serial number is 46567. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

I disagree. It's a 63 model. The 604/654/704 used the full hood that covered the fuel tank, and the 854 used the black/chrome dash decal. Making it a 633/653/753 depending on the original engine. Serial numbers won't help you, They're not published anywhere.

Hi everybody, I'm new to the site and new to wheel horse's in general. I recently moved and needed a lawn tractor as well as for snow removal. I ran across a c161 twin Speed on craigslist. The tractor is in excellent condition as a restoration took place approximately 5 years ago. The tractor had sat for a couple years when I went to check it out. Tractor was starving for fuel. (used to be a small engine technician). That didn't bother me. I paid $950 for the tractor, which included the mower deck and a single stage snowblower. I later have found out that the c161 was a bit more rare and parts can be tougher to find. $100 in parts and a couple hours of my time that tractor runs great. Just curious if I over paid for the tractor and is it something i should be nervous about as far as parts. Thanks Guys, Mike

Nice looking tractor, the only thing that makes it more on the rarer side is the motor and the hood. Everything else is pretty much standard. Don't be surprised if the back fenders break on more or less go all to prices on you. Very common for that style. Very easily replaced with the standard metal fender seat pan. Some parts are still available new from Toro at astronomical prices, but most can be found on eBay or right here on Red Square or swap meet/tractor shows. As far as to what you paid. Your close to the top end. There again try and buy something of that quality new. You did alright and if taken care of will more than give you your money's worth.

Heres one of mine...

Sounds like they went nocturnal on ya pullstart. Got a trail cam out? We did ok but nothing to brag about... I took a spike and my wife got a 4 pointer. Not gonna eat the horns anyway...or the tag. Hear tell both gotta be boiled a long time!

10 ft piece of chain is about $20 at TSC and usually comes with one master link. Just buy another separate master link or two so you can use the leftover chain as a spare or for something else. To break the chain, I just grind off one side of both rivet heads and use a small punch and hammer to drive the link out.

I would leave the old pump bolted to the block and just bypass it. You can always remove the old pump and install a cover plate later after it gets warm out if you wish.

You done good. If you had gone to a Big Box Store and paid that amount you would have come out with a small piece of junk riding mower and a snow shovel!

This thing is gonna be a snow pushing horse...(horse) lolololo and there are a couple of members near Fenton,,,,they might chime in soon maybe......If it is clean and quiet....it sounds like the hard (fun) work has already been done,,,, MAybe sevice it....oil,change ,,,,the rear axle fluid,,,,,new fuel filter,,,and air filter....ethenol free fuel if needed....Oh,,,and new fuel lines.. Welcome to the Fireside.....this place can keep your brain warm with good help.....

Didn`t they use to use the same cans for brake fluid ?

Such a cool looking ol' ...still wearing it's original work clothes. Here's hoping it won't get restored.

You definitely are THE wood stove man Lowell. Free heat and hot water without the smoke, dirt, ashes, bugs, and danger of fire. Gotta luv that well engineered wood transporter with the opposite corner supports for easy loading.

Very interesting question Bob. I've never had the need to take one of these apart either. I do have one that is acting kind of funny so if there is no answer from anyone with knowledge of this, I'm willing to have at it to find out the answers and document the experiment.

thanks. it looks great and it is in the shop geting warmed to get its decals put on.

I originally called it a 1963 like Jason is saying, but when I was looking at the serial numbers that Garry has listed in the "Manuals" section the 46567 lined up with the 854. It's got the star wheel for adjusting the lift lever so it is either a 63 or 64. More and better pictures would help. Something does not look right with that belt guard or the engine. I don't see an indent square in the guard...both the 1963 and 1964 appears to have that. Could be the picture, I think it has a different guard and the horse has been repainted. Nice looking round hood though. I have to look at the dash plaque thingy...Jason is pretty sharp. Edit to say I just looked at the 854 dash plates...it is a 1963 above...like Jason said.

Thanks everyone for the help. I'll take the advice, and just bypass the old pump for now. Good idea to just turn the outlet hose back on itself to the inlet. I just ordered the cover for the hole in the block, but it won't be going on until springtime. If I take all of the covers off of the engine now to get to the pump, it will surely cause a snow storm, and I won't have a working snow thrower to handle it. Happy Thanksgiving, Jim

Ime just going to use tractor paint and petrol like I did when Ian (stigion) and I built project horse gut

If it helps...serial # on this 653 is 38885. Click, then scroll down to see Gary's collection of '63 #'s here...

O.k., I finally got the new sprocket welded on the auger. When I put the bearings in. They won't spin freely. I also cleaned the auger openings with mesh cloth. Is this normal. Model 0642ST07 bearing # 1630 2RS I found the problem guys!!

Yeah , that is what I did -just leave it but block the ports ..no vacuum leak that way...

'75 B-145-found currently... listed on Western Mass C/L.

Hmmm...Looks like brake fluid, smells like brake fluid, tastes like brake fluid ????????????

Anyone remember these? For sale on ebay for $499. I must have destroyed $10,000 dollars worth of these when I turned them into ash trays by tapping the top of the cone with a ball peen hammer till the cone was inverted down into the can.

I've been out a few times this gun season, I lost my "spot" that I was given permission to hunt the last few years and I found out 2 hours before dark on the 14th. (Gun season opens the 15th in MI) I made a couple calls and landed a nice blind with a lot of deer tracks surrounding. I've only seen squirrels and birds the last week and 200 lbs total of corn, apples, sugar beets and carrots have disappeared. I laid down some minerals in the ground and have a lot of tracks through there too, but still haven't seen a single deer. Warm windy days and full bright moons are helping with that I suppose. I haven't been able to stay out past 3 pm though, so Friday after cutting wood I think I'll have time to sit until dark and hope for the best!

That whole setup is pretty sweet. A+ on the trolly system.

I was in the eighth grade in class (oddly enough, in history class I believe) at East School in Gas City , IN. The principal made the announcement on the intercom. We were then told to go to our combined 7th & 8th grade study hall. I think the administration was struggling with what they were going to do with us or say to us. A short time later we were all released to go home. Hardly a word was spoken from the time the announcement was made to the time we were dismissed. Everyone was in total, stunned, shock. I had turned 15 just the day before. The reality of life smacked us innocents in the face that day. I can remember Cronkite's reaction to it almost brought a seasoned hard nosed journalist/broadcaster to tears on national television. We almost encountered the same situation less than 20 years later when President Reagan was shot by John Hinckley.

I agree with Glenn. Some folks prefer to get something inexpensive and then pour money and lots of time into it. You paid basically 1050 total, and the snowblower if in similar shape is good for ~ 200. ~ 800 for a well running recentish refresh/restore is not smoking good deal but not too bad. The tractor parts that differ from most of that era are primarily the engine, hood and headlight lens. I have a Twin Briggs Hydro C-161 and really like the engine. Although Kohlers are the mainstream. Enjoy your tractor!

Looks really nice. I'd clear coat the id plate to keep it looking nice.

I sure like the trolley system!

tommarow we will see if she lives

I was at Ross Elementary School (Gary, Indiana) in the sixith grade. The secretary of the school came into the classroom and told our teacher something. He indicated that the President had been shot and taken to the hospital in Dallas, Texas. We wer all taken to the school cafeteria which had to large black and white televisions on wheeled metal stands. When we started watching the TV's were on NBC I recall. They were turned to CBS and that is when Walter Cronkhite announced that he had died at Parkland Hospital. School was not released early. We stayed in the cafeteria watching until 3:30 . I lived a block from the school and walked home where we kept the TV on through the funeral on Monday.

I have an idea, part it out, keep the engine and tires since they will work on a .

Mine is Rustoleum Regal red.

Poor Hornworm. NOT!!!!! Don't kill the wasps. Most all are beneficial. I don't kill any. Just stay away.

I always hated getting water and crud in the balls myself. Sure burns them out early........... Glenn

Depends on the temperature of course but if it's below 20° out twice a day and above 20° once a day and if I'm just heating the water in the summertime about once every 5 to 6 days

My stove is an outside wood boiler. It heats the house, shop and water and I have also included some pictures of my wood shed and trolley system that I made to fill the stove.

Nice going Ed. I haven`t hunted in twenty years, but this feeder is 15 feet from my kitchen window....

I picked this up the other day this is the id tag on the blower tag on engine Trying to figure out year?, when I search the model number of the engine ,I get results for a bunch of H60s but not that specific one, I did find a manual for 626st and 626ste online ,which helped get the linkages adjusted correctly, just need to find some belts and a scrapper blade ,it does have the opening for the electric start if I happen upon one.Going to check local lawn and garden for a blade see if there is something i can make work nate

Looks like a Nice paint Job!!

Just give it a good scrub down with Simple Green and water... that's all I do... spray it all down, let it sit for a couple minutes, hit it with a semi-stiff brush and hose it off. Blow it off with an air gun and ride-a-way

They are not just bolts, they are cup point set screws and lock nuts.

Kinda like the idea of smoked mole, so I thought I'd givem a taste of Horse CO. Several horses were happy to join the hunt.

If the potato tubers are even close to the surface, and just a little sunlight gets on the potato and it will start turning green just under the skin, the entire potato gets green and tastes funny, it may even be unsafe to eat. I left some potatoes to dry last August, just two days of sun ruined 90% of the 200# we harvested, "never again". I use a lot of grass clippings (in thin layers), shredded straw and shredded leaves to build up a hill or mulch around the plants. The "hill" of dirt helps a lot of the plants stay soft and tender where they are buried. With all the melon plants, a "Hill" is entirely different: You dig a 12" 'bushel basket size' hole, dump in 6" of manure (aged) and replace the dirt, so you have a hill to plant the melon seeds. It keeps excess water away from the young shoots, and then by Fall is flat again and plants & fruit are very strong.

My Ghost Chili Pepper plants have died from the frost, I had to go ahead and pick all the peppers while they were green. I hear they still have quite a kick to them before they are ripe...

Here's a simple economical basic soil test. It won't tell you everything but it can get you in the ballpark. Pust some of your soil in a clean glass jar, add a half cup of vinegar. If the soil bubbles or fizzes it's alkaline. If there's no reaction clean the container thouroughly, add a second soil sample and mix in 1/2 cup of water. Add a half cup of baking soda to the sample. If it bubbles or fizzes, the soil is highly acidic. Amend your soil with lime or wood ashes if it's acidic. Amend your soil with sulfur or pine needles if it's alkaline. Amending soil takes time so make small changes and retest after a month or two.